Record, North Jersey

by ARoarer 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • detective
    detective

    I think modified preaching would be okay for pedophiles. They could be the ones who hold studies at local prisons. That would be okay.

    What's that, you say? Pedophiles aren't warmly received in prisons? Oh well, if their really devoted to spreading the good news, I'm sure they'll do it anyways, right?

  • MikeMusto
    MikeMusto

    Detective,

    Molestors are the lowest of the low in prison, Spreading the good
    news of the kindom isnt the only thing that these people will be spreading

  • ARoarer
    ARoarer

    I thought the article in the Record was a little disappointing. It never touched on the issues we talked about with the reporter. The article was bland, non commital and did not communicate what all of the victims faced when they depended on elders to be truthful during court proceedings. We spent days and hours answering questions everytime the Record called. Our lawyer took time out to provide court documents at their request. My husband took calls on his cell phone and was interrupted during a business meeting at a trade show. We were under the impression the Record wanted to do an in depth investigation. They quoted the elder saying we moniter pedophiles. They never mentioned our issue with that. So what if elders moniter pedophiles. They only do it on Kingdom Hall property. The Pedophile can molest children outside the Kingdom Hall, as in my father-in-law's case. The record neglected to mention that we chose to appeal not because we are so hurt that our friends can't talk to us. The bottom line people stopped talking to us over a year ago when we first talked to the Courier Journal in Kentucky. The appeal is based on the fact that we are not "apostate", have not left Christian teachings, and the disfellowshipping issue is done to abuse the members and control them, and threaten them from carrying on any relationship they once had with the person being kicked out. The disfellowshipping issue gives the message that we are held on the same level as an adulterer, fornicator, greedy, person, drunkard etc...... I can guarantee many elders I have known should then be disfellowshipped. Me and my husband are none of these. As for Pedophiles being expelled from the congregation, yes they should be kept out at all cost. They cannot be cured, they are opportunists looking for an opportunity to grab. Preaching? Would you want to listen to one at your door with your little child by your side. And in my father-in-law's case, telephone witnessing is just another opportunity to find children who answer the phone. Part of is MO is luring children by phone. And what about victims who have been raped. Is is normal for a victim to want to be in the same room as her rapist. The world does not expect that. So why would a mother of a victim want her childs rapist to be sitting across the Kingdom Hall because the "brothers" believe he is "repentant". Let God decide that. Until then keep them out. Another issue the Record did not mention is that the Kingdom Hall that harbors my father-in-law, is contaminated with family members who protected him. His own nephew is the Presiding Overseer, who threatened members discipline if they spoke about his uncles' perversion, which by the way affected his own immediate family, who also chose to protect the family name under the guise of protecting the congregation. Incestuous family members protecting the pedophile in the congregation. I just would have liked to have seen the Record be more accurate in portraying the issue of the coverup that occured in that whole County in North Jersey where countless victims came forward in the surrounding congregations. My father-in-law enjoyed the protection of family members silenceing the victims, many who left the Watchtower decades ago. This man had victims that spanded the 50' 60' 70' and 80's in the surrounding congregations. As for victims in the world, there also were several. Who really knows how many he did have. The fact that he is "in good standing" and can enjoy a greeting is a travesty while we are labled by the leaders who protect him.

  • NewLight2
    NewLight2
    I thought the article in the Record was a little disappointing. It never touched on the issues we talked about with the reporter.

    After reading your above post, I have to agree with you. You gave them so much of your time and all that article really said was just a re-hash of similar articles that have appeared in various papers within the last few weeks.

    The fact that he is "in good standing" and can enjoy a greeting is a travesty while we are labled by the leaders who protect him.

    They could have at least printed the same observation at the end of the article that your above quote states.
  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    ARoarer,

    Patience.

    As I told Bill, there will be days where you feel that your message did not get out. No doubt you will feel that way with some of the Dateline stuff.

    Believe me - just getting what was in the paper published is a feet all on to its self.

    As a person who deals with the lamestreet press too I have also been misquoted. It drives me nuts but ...

    .... I learn to deal with it by not worrying so much about what the paper wrote and then I try and think like a "soccer mom". I ask myself the question - did the message get out for a "soccer mom" to understand and if it did not get out what can I do better.

    To me the message got out. Sure the article could have stated somethings better but you still kicked the WTS right in the "stones" and there are still many more articles to be written.

    hawk

  • neyank
    neyank

    The molesters should be locked up in prison!!!

    No and, if or buts about it.

    They should be shown the same considerations they have shown their victoms.

    JW's or otherwise, these animals should not be walking the streets being able to "preach" or anything else.

    As long as they are free, all children are in danger.

    And it's about time the JW's realize that.
    JW's or not, they are still parents and as such, their first concern should be for their kids.

    Not some orginization that would have more concern about how it would look to the world if the facts about pediphiles in the congregations came out than for the kids!

    neyank

  • Michael3000
    Michael3000
    The molesters should be locked up in prison!!!

    I agree. Put 'em in with the general population, & let the prison system work its magic. That's almost a guaranteed shiv in the back.

  • TheStar
    TheStar

    I'm with ARoarer on this one. No one has come up with a cure for Pedophiles yet. Any pedophile in prison can tell you that if they let him/her go, he/she will continue to do it.

    It doesn't matter how repentant they are, they will continue to molest children because it is a need they have. Just as it is a human need to have sex, they have a need to have sex with children. Something has gone wrong in their brain function and there is no cure for it yet. They look for ways to access children and the JW religion creates a perfect environment for them. The JW religion didn't do this purposely but they should now be aware that their rules create the perfect breeding ground for perpetrators and a child molester should be kept out of the congregation permanently.

    Truly repentant child molester now in prison beg to be kept behind bars because they don't want to repeat their actions but know that if let back into the world, they will once again molest children.

    The only place for a pedophile is behind bars until science finds a cure.

  • biblexaminer
    biblexaminer

    Molest a few children and get a HUGE REWARD!!

    As some suggest, pedos should not be allowed to go door to door.

    WHAT A BOON! You can get everlasting life and you don't have to work for it like the rest.

    Sure, the pedos can go on vacation instead of working their ass to the bone like the rest of dubbland.

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