Lying about Shunning! conceals the "truth"

by Skinnedsheep 45 Replies latest jw friends

  • wannabefree

    Theocratic warfare.

    The Organization prides itself on being "cautious as serpents yet innocent as doves" (Matt 10:16) ... the Bible was written for them and about them don't ya know

    They don't lie, they cunningly change the focus of the question and give truthful partial answers. It's why they hate ex-JW's, we call them on the BS and hold them to the original question, then they call us Apostates and refuse to have dialogue ... what does Oubliette say ... oh yeah, it's a CULT!

  • Crazyguy

    Its a ball face lie, they say that df'd ones are treated the same by thier families and we know that this is a complete lie!!! Period anyone that can't see that either can not read or are on drugs or something..

  • sparrowdown

    It's called speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

    GB does'nt send anyone to coventry just like Hitler never personally gassed anyone.

    That's what henchmen are for.

  • Moses Joe
    Moses Joe

    Technical the quote in the OP isn't a lie. It says that they don't shun people who quit going out in the field ministry (true) and that they don't shun people who drift away (also true). It says nothing like, "people who are disfellowshipped are not shunned."

  • Oogie

    Like others said, 'who would join if this were public knowledge'? my husband didn't realise he was expected to treat a df'd person any different until someone told him to.

  • steve2

    Allowing that the website information on shunning is at "best" incomplete, no one who attends meetings, reads the Watchtower and associates with Witnesses can honestly say they were completely misled on the topic of shunning and its wide applications. Perhaps initially given an overly positive account yes; but completely misled? No.

    Anyone who "comes into" the organization on the basis of website information alone - in contrast to the details in the study edition of the Watchtower - would have to be willfully deaf and blind to insist the website information on shunning is full and complete.

  • Splash

    Space Madness "We do not automatically disfellowship someone who commits a serious sin. If, however, a baptized Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible’s moral code and does not repent, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped."

    This means that if you repent you will not get disfellowshiped.

    In the real world, even if you do repent, the elders may still disfellowship you. It is their call, you are at the mercy of men.

    Therefore the quote you supplied is false, untrue and misleading.


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  • DesirousOfChange

    I asked elders and inactive are NOT considered former.

    This is a very interesting point!

    IF "inactive" were said to be "former" JWs, then they would NOT be subject to disfellowshipping, as "former" members cannot be removed from membership.

    Of course, you'll get nowhere arguing against double standards of the WTS with a Judicial Committee; an Elder; or even a diehard JDub.



  • pixel

    They conceal the truth, hence, they are lying.

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