1 John 5:1 says EVERYONE (not just special people) but everyone who believes that Jesus is the son of God is born of God. Born of God is the same thing as born again. The JW theology is so easy to refute I dont see how anyone can read the whole NT and still be one.
144,000 are only born again disproved by 1 verse.
by yogosans14 14 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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yadda yadda 2
Yep. Even the Watchtower Society admits in its publications that all first century Christians were born again and the scriptural accounts only attest to that. BUT, you see....a certain Joseph Rutherford came up with a new epiphany about 1900 years later!.
JW's reckon Judge Rutherford has a bit more credibility and is a bit more more up to date than Jesus and the apostles.
MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE!
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designs
yogo- then you shouldn't worry about the JWs, per your view they are all Born Againers....
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caroline77
I agree, yogosans14. There are many similar verses.
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designs
yadda- John Calvin predated Rutherford with his 'Election of the Elect' doctrine.
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designs
The premise for a select few being the Chosen is set in motion by Jesus with the argument that we can "only" come to God through him but God selects those he gives this insight to.
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ablebodiedman
There are three scriptures in the bible in which the context is being born or becoming "sons of the kingdom".
In all three the context includes being excommunicated, aka disfellowshipped.
Coincidence?
It is the reason I like to see what people say on this forum.
Lots of disfellowshipped brothers and sisters.
The "special" people are here.
The "narrow gate" is smaller than people think.
Micah 2:13
"The one making a breakthrough will certainly come up before them: they will actually break through. And they will pass through a gate, and they will go out by it. And their king will pass through before them, with Jehovah at the head of them."
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ablebodiedman
Isaiah 66:5-8
5 Hear the word of Jehovah, YOU men who are trembling at his word: "YOUR brothers that are hating YOU, that are excluding YOU by reason of my name, said, ‘May Jehovah be glorified!’ He must also appear with rejoicing on YOUR part, and they are the ones that will be put to shame."6 There is a sound of uproar out of the city, a sound out of the temple! It is the sound of Jehovah repaying what is deserved to his enemies. 7 Before she began to come into labor pains she gave birth. Before birth pangs could come to her, she even gave deliverance to a male child. 8 Who has heard of a thing like this? Who has seen things like these? Will a land be brought forth with labor pains in one day? Or will a nation be born at one time? For Zion has come into labor pains as well as given birth to her sons.
[Name of person] is no longer a Jehovah's Witness ---> that are excluding YOU by reason of my name
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ablebodiedman
John 16:1-21
16 "I have spoken these things to YOU that YOU may not be stumbled. 2 Men will expel YOU from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone that kills YOU will imagine he has rendered a sacred service to God. 3 But they will do these things because they have not come to know either the Father or me. 4 Nevertheless, I have spoken these things to YOU that, when the hour for them arrives, YOU may remember I told them to YOU. "These things, however, I did not tell YOU at first, because I was with YOU. 5 But now I am going to him that sent me, and yet not one of YOU asks me, ‘Where are you going?’ 6 But because I have spoken these things to YOU grief has filled YOUR hearts. 7 Nevertheless, I am telling YOU the truth, It is for YOUR benefit I am going away. For if I do not go away, the helper will by no means come to YOU; but if I do go my way, I will send him to YOU. 8 And when that one arrives he will give the world convincing evidence concerning sin and concerning righteousness and concerning judgment: 9 in the first place, concerning sin, because they are not exercising faith in me; 10 then concerning righteousness, because I am going to the Father and YOU will behold me no longer; 11 then concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged. 12 "I have many things yet to say to YOU, but YOU are not able to bear them at present. 13 However, when that one arrives, the spirit of the truth, he will guide YOU into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own impulse, but what things he hears he will speak, and he will declare to YOU the things coming. 14 That one will glorify me, because he will receive from what is mine and will declare it to YOU. 15 All the things that the Father has are mine. That is why I said he receives from what is mine and declares [it] to YOU. 16 In a little while YOU will behold me no longer, and, again, in a little while YOU will see me." 17 Therefore some of his disciples said to one another: "What does this mean that he says to us, ‘In a little while YOU will not behold me, and, again, in a little while YOU will see me,’ and, ‘because I am going to the Father’?" 18 Hence they were saying: "What does this mean that he says, ‘a little while’? We do not know what he is talking about." 19 Jesus knew they were wanting to question him, so he said to them: "Are YOU inquiring among yourselves over this, because I said, In a little while YOU will not behold me, and, again, in a little while YOU will see me? 20 Most truly I say to YOU, YOU will weep and wail, but the world will rejoice; YOU will be grieved, but YOUR grief will be turned into joy. 21 A woman, when she is giving birth, has grief, because her hour has arrived; but when she has brought forth the young child, she remembers the tribulation no more because of the joy that a man has been born into the world.
[Name of person] is no longer a Jehovah's Witness ---> Men will expel YOU from the synagogue
abe
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ablebodiedman
Romans 9:26
26 and in the place where it was said to them, ‘YOU are not my people,’ there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’"
[Name of person] is no longer a Jehovah's Witness ---> ‘YOU are not my people,’
abe
Genesis 3:14