by Band on the Run 16 Replies latest jw friends
People have been claiming 'special' status for thousands of years. Jesus wanted Monarchism not Democracy, he wanted to be above others. Pick your Televangelist they all seem cut from the same self appointed 'special' cloth..
Russell, Rutherford, Franz all seemed to like the adulation that so many other Preachers of the Day wanted.
Jesus .... wanted to be above others
Really? By healing the sick, raising the dead and washing dirty feet?
Can you do that?
People have been claiming 'special' status for thousands of years.
Jesus life WAS special. Very special.
Peter Stoner was chairman of the mathematics and astronomy departments at Pasadena City College until 1953 when he moved to Westmont College in Santa Barbara, California. There he served as chairman of the science division. At the time he wrote this book, he was professor emeritus of science at Westmont.
In the book Science Speaks, there was a foreword by Dr. Harold Hartzler, an officer of the American Scientific Affiliation. He wrote that the manuscript had been carefully reviewed by a committee of his organization and that "the mathematical analysis included is based upon principles of probability which are thoroughly sound." He further stated that in the opinion of the Affiliation, Professor Stoner "has applied these principles in a proper and convincing way."
Peter Stoner's Calculations Regarding Messianic Prophecy
Peter Stoner calculated the probability of just 8 Messianic prophecies being fulfilled in the life of Jesus. As you read through these prophecies, you will see that all estimates were calculated as conservatively as possible.
Multiplying all these probabilities together produces a number (rounded off) of 1x10 28 . Dividing this number by an estimate of the number of people who have lived since the time of these prophecies (88 billion) produces a probability of all 8 prophecies being fulfilled accidently in the life of one person. That probability is 1in 10 17 or 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. That's one in one hundred quadrillion!
This is equivalent to filling the state of Texas (or France) knee deep in coins and then picking one up with a unique mark on the first try. However, Jesus did not fulfill only 8 prophecies, he fulfilled 108 prophecies. The world itself could not contain enough coins to picture this probability.
A detailed listing of all 108 prophecies fulfilled by Jesus is contained in Dr. Reagan's book, Christ in Prophecy Study Guide .
Jesus is totally and utterly unique. He is the epitome of someone "special".
Sorry Perry your Jesus was just another false messiah. He failed.
The Jewish ( those who invented the Jewish messiah idea) case against the Jesus character in the Gospels-
The messiah must be a descendent of the House of David
An ordinary human not god or god/man
Bring world peace
Gather all Jews back to Israel
Rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem
Unite humanity in the worship of the Jewish God and lead in Torah observance
-Perhaps the most telling point on the list is Jesus failure to bring world peace. On the contrary Christians went on a 1700 year killing spree.
Perry,
I don't believe your figures are correct. Why don't you quote from mainstream science groups? Any scientist I know would be embarassed by the fulfilled prophecy bs. The larger picture is that your assessment would strip the humanity from Jesus. He would not be an actor but a mindless pawn.
Jewish Christians might view him as a divine figure but only John cast him as God.
Ive wondered this same question just about every day. How did this small, unremarkable, fringe, up-start dooms day group survive the rise to mediocrety to blossom into the half wit, cult/real estate pyramid scheme monstrosity we see before us today, rising like an inbred irrational pheonix from the ashes.
It would make a fantastic documentary. Ray Publisher, are you listening?
