Connections: remarkable sounds of the past, still seen, reproducible and tsunamis

by prologos 45 Replies latest social current

  • Viviane
    Viviane

    viv- thanks for the compliment cos you don't appear to know that you don't know

    Utter non-sense. Pretending you were complimented may make you feel better, but you were not complimented. Your continued insistence on ignorance and woo is utterly devoid of deserving of respect.

    such obvious standing waves - unbelievable that you such a skeptic

    Please stop. You have no idea what you are talking about.

    In post 2944 I referred to gravity as an acceleration, without referring to the originator of the concept A. Einstein, for surely the distractors (esses) wouls jump on that as appeal to higher authority, like the source of my education. the lower authority.

    Please cite the paper and math that you were referring to.

    I just will not respond to opinions that simply repeat , begin or end with the phrase " You do not know what you are talking about" for the subject is connections, waves, energy, gravity in entities.

    Not responding and not being able to respond are not the same. You have responded plenty, now it plainly obvious you have no response. I don't mean this as an insult, but you are ignorant of science. The problem is that you are proud of your own ignorance and wish to propogate it and are either too lazy or too proud of being ignorant to learn anything.

    Please, stop responding. It will be easier to simply re-butt your statements than to re-butt them AND have to deal with your failed attempt at defending your ignorance.

  • Twitch
    Twitch

    twitch: I thought you had a better sense of Homour than that. that was not an ad honim attack, argument, afunny aside. These were great teachers, students braving reprisals for teaching forbidden material.

    Uh huh, right. Are you inferring that you're a brave student teaching forbidden material? That you knew someone who appeared to do so? Or that you enjoyed irritating people who tried to teach you things?

    I completely understand the frustration of anyone trying to teach you something.

    please, -: google standing waves, rapids, mountains. often a succession of waves. impressive.

    No need. I understand the interaction of air and water currents in special localized situations where gliders and surfers take advantage of opposing currents that create temporary standing waves.

    a set of waves in a moving medium, stationary or standing with respect to the source. medium, water, air in case of the tides the medium is the planets surface.

    This is not the same as your previous example of air/water currents vis a vis opposing waves . This is the fundamental concept you are missing.

    of course there are other type of standing waves, accoustic for example that are from refraction and interference mechanism.

    I have experienced standing waves in audio reinforcement and how nodes and antinodes are dependant on wavelength/frequency, the location of transducers and specifics of the enviroment. I am aware of the effect of resonance in instruments and audio systems, both in theory and practise.

    This is classic standing wave phenonmena but has nothing to do with tides.

    The tidal bulges are from disturbence in a moving medium.

    No, the bulges are due to gravity and are not waves in themselves. Gravity is a constant force and not wave like in it's effect on water or anything else. There is no rarefaction or compression in gravity as in air or water, nor frequency/wavelength.

    That the earth rotates through these bulges does not constitute a wave that propagates or is the result of wave propagation. That waves exist in water is not because of the moon or gravity. Your terms are mixed up.

    strange when at the end of a presentations it always ends in put downs rather than real refutations.

    a recurring pattern like a wave, not out-STANDING.

    Evidence was presented that refuted your claim and arguments presented that are sound. You haven't provided any evidence of your assertion and continue to press your opinion.

    That you cannot accept refutation of your argument is not a put down but a fact you cannot seem to accept and the only reoccuring pattern here.

    twitch, the theme was about CONNECTIONS, and I did not see you make the connection between the standing waves in air and water to the standing wave bulges on the planets surface, because the land has tides too, standing under the moon.

    This is due to the fact there is no connection between wave interference or opposing currents and gravity's effect on water and the earth's rotation.

    not all standing waves are equal.

    Whatever.

    proven scientific method, observe, make description of model, make prediction to falsify.

    falsefy please.

    please provide evidence of something to falsify.

    In post 2944 I referred to gravity as an acceleration, without referring to the originator of the concept A. Einstein, for surely the distractors (esses) wouls jump on that as appeal to higher authority, like the source of my education. the lower authority.

    Uh, completely false. Have you ever have of Issac Newton and the Law of Universal Gravitation?

    You are a buffoon

    I just will not respond to opinions that simply repeat , begin or end with the phrase " You do not know what you are talking about" for

    the subject is connections, waves, energy, gravity in entities. and

    as we can visualize them in analogues systems.

    I tire of this utter bullshit and have nothing further to add. I feel sorry for anyone foolish enough to buy into your misrepresentations and wilful ignorance.

  • Ruby456
    Ruby456

    viv if you have already stated that I am talking non-sense why are you asking me for a paper?

  • Viviane
    Viviane

    It's done in hopes you may be motivated to educate yourself.

  • Ruby456
    Ruby456

    I believe in getting educated. it is just that on this thread we have an interesting and unusual way of gaining an education and that is by observing the patterning of natural phenomena. Early cosmologists observed these patterns and looked for rationalist explanations rather than looking to gods. prologos is simply looking for rationalist explanations - why is that a problem? If gravitational waves turn out to be true and the scientists are able to defend it rigorously it would demonstrate that early cosmologists were definitely on to something and had grasped these ideas brilliantly. I'm saying grasp in the sense of how does a monkey know to grasp with its tail? lol - naturally of course

  • Viviane
    Viviane

    it is just that on this thread we have an interesting and unusual way of gaining an education and that is by observing the patterning of natural phenomena.

    Please explain what patterns of natural phenomena you are observing.

    prologos is simply looking for rationalist explanations - why is that a problem?

    It's not a problem if that were what he were doing. What he IS doing is misrepresenting facts, science in general and insisting things that are demonstrably false are true and refusing to do any work.

    If gravitational waves turn out to be true and the scientists are able to defend it rigorously it would demonstrate that early cosmologists were definitely on to something and had grasped these ideas brilliantly.

    Please explain what ideas and which early cosmologists you are talking about.

  • Ruby456
    Ruby456

    this is an opportunity for you to do some work viv - I have to catch up with some TV programs. bye bye

  • Viviane
    Viviane

    No worries. You haven't been holding me back. Perhaps instead of TV you can spend some time answering the questions I posed!

  • Ruby456
    Ruby456

    viv kudos to you on your journey. But in thinking about it, it would be silly for me to present info to you from the past that in the past was not as separable from social life and politics as science is today and indeed was not devoid of peronalised features. the falsifying mode you are in would make it completely unproductive imo although you may disagree as falling upon something with gleeful delight to tear it apart does have its place. But I shudder at the thought of the blood dripping from your fangs as you carry off your trophy - lol

  • Viviane
    Viviane

    Shame. You and prologos are both determined to remain as ignorant as possible. This is why we can't have nice things.

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