Shanghai's iconic Nanjing Lu (Street)

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    even so its not the whole story. There's more to come.

    This map will help explain it

    You can locate Shanghaiat the top (right) of the map. The new port of Shanghai is located off-shore to the right.

    But to the south (or, the bottom of this map) is another port located at the city of Ningbo. Often freight has to be transported from adjacent ports, but it was a long way round

    via the city of Hangzhou.

    The solution was to cut some hours off the trip by building a new bridge 35 km long bridge across Hangzhou bay. This would provide more flexibility, facilitating cargo handling.

    The red line shows the new highways and the bridge. Ningbo port was also expanded to handle more ships. Its a very ancient port, way back in the Tang Dynasty (7th to 10th C) it was already one of the three main ports (in the China of that time) for imports and exports.

    Today Ningbo is also one of the largest ports in the world:

    (extract from wikipedia for Port of Ningbo)

    The port is at the crossroad of the north-south shipping route and the important waterway of the Yangtze River. The port comprises several ports which are Beilun (seaport), Zhenhai (estuary port) and old Ningbo harbor (inland river port), Daxie and Chuanshan. It is one of a growing number of ports in China with a cargo throughput volume exceeding 100 million tons annually. [2]

    Ningbo Port is involved in economic trade with cargo shipment, raw materials and manufactured goods from as far as North and South America and Oceania. It has economic trade with over 560 ports from more than 90 countries and regions in the world. [2] [3]

    The Port of Ningbo has recently been merged with the neighbouring Port of Zhoushan to form a combined cargo-handling centre. The combined Ningbo-Zhoushan Port had a traffic of 627,000,000 tons of cargo in 2010, making it the second-largest port in the world (after Shanghai) in terms of cargo volume.

    With the new Hangzhou Bay bridge complete, the Shanghai/Ningbo area is a super class freight handling centre.

    File:Location Hangzhou Bay Bridge.PNG

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    And the Discovery channel overviews the building of the bridge. It may rather enlightening for those who think that China only makes plastic geegaws.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I22zoRlxMOw

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    As a JW, focussed on the illusion of a world-wide Theocracy controlled by President Jesus, I was only dimly aware of world-shaking events in eastern Asia, totally unpredicted by the supposedly omniscient Yahweh.

    Until 1800, the Indian and Chinese economies represented about 50% of the world economy. India, at that stage, had been invaded and colonised by the British, who went on to attempt to force China into a colonial status, an attempt that culminated in the Opium War of 1839-1842. The British victory in that war, forced China to open its door to the British controlled international drug trade, so handing Britain the proud title of the "World's Largest Drug Syndicate."

    But over in the USA, a relatively unknown preacher named William Miller, studied the Bible and became convinced that Jesus would return in 1843. His silliness gambled with the lives of his followers, and later people. (including me and all of us as XJW's). Miller cannot be exonerated from his culpability, just as Russel cannot, nor Rutherford, for that matter.

    Here's a chart illustrating Miller's view of world history:

    File:Millerite 1843 chart 2.jpg

    Millerite prophetic time chart from 1843, about the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation. Originally published by J. V. Himes. Scanned from P. Gerard Damsteegt,Foundations of the Seventh-day Adventist Message and Mission, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans (1977), p310. ISBN 0-8028-1698-3

    Retouched version of Image:Millerite 1843 chart.jpg - basically, some blur, levels, and sharpening to remove the grain.

    The increasing European domination of China, seemed to support the ideas of later demogogues, influenced by Miller's concept of the end times (Charlie Russell for one). In China, they thought, Jesus would finally triumph as the demons would retreat before the invincible Jesus - hence the tremendous 19th C. effort to convert the Chinese.

    It never happened. In the Boxer rebellion at the end of the 19th C, churches all over China were burnt and converts slaughtered as fed-up Chinese acted to eliminate Europeans. They failed in their effort, but set in motion a train of events that would lead inevitably to the proclamation of, "Zhonghua Renmin Gongheguo"(People's Republic of China)" by Mao Zedong in Beijing.(1949).

    "The Chinese People have stood up!" announced Mao, and that is precisely what you see happening in China now.

    To a Big History student like me, its a seldom realised opportunity to watch a process of state organisation (or, re-organisation) happening as you watch. The last chance may have been Germany in the 1930's, as the Nationalist Socialists' harnessed innate German patriotism. And before that, the USA in the19th C, where the accumulation of 'pools' of capital occurred during the age of the 'robber barons' as it has been termed, which is mirrored by a similar process in modern China. In the USA the 19th C also saw the gradual emergence of a body of law that was neccessary to control the accumulation of capital. Again, modern China mirrors that same process.

    If the nineteenth century saw the disintegration of an organised Chinese state, under an attack by the west, and the twentieth century saw the re-organisation of the Chinese state, in response to the western world, what do you think the twentyfirst century will bring to China and the world?

    Do you think China can be ignored? What do you think the rise of China means for western society?

    I do not know the answers, but I'm surely fascinated as I watch.

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    This shows some views of Shanghai in 1932 (bit difficult to sort it out though):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgq_WAvqEgA

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    Thanks for sharing Fulltimestudent. I've read what you wrote but didn't click on the links other than the bridge which is amazing.

    Who knows what the future holds for China but it wouldn't surprise me if they become the most powerful nation.

    Hubby and I have made several trips to Hong Kong/Macu and really enjoy our visits there. We don't want to visit China for several reasons, including the difficulty in obtaining a Visa (we're Australian), the language barrier and a few other things but Shanghai might be a very interesting place to go to.

    One thing is for sure. The pollution from China is disgraceful and for it to become as bad as it is shows there is very little humanity from China's rulership. It is inhumane both on a health level and on the enjoyment of nature. All their advancements just aren't worth the cost people have to pay.

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    Listener: We don't want to visit China for several reasons, including the difficulty in obtaining a Visa (we're Australian), the language barrier and a few other things but Shanghai might be a very interesting place to go to.

    I think you would enjoy a visit to Shanghai, there are many european faces on the street,s so likely the language barrier is not as high as it could be. If you go - try to visit Suzhou and Hangzhou also. Shanghai is all about business and finance, you have to work out how to find what's left of the past and the Shanghai museum is worth a visit But HZ and SZ have many things left from the past that are worth seeing. In SZ, the traditional gardens are enjoyable

    I have an exam wednesday, so I'm short on time today, but will come back and discuss the pollution issue. It's bad, but if your as old as I am, you may remember when air-quality was an issue in Sydney, too. At about 17, I worked as a roofer, and can recall standing on the roof top of a building in Liverpool St (opp. Hyde Park) one day, watching what seemed like hundreds of chimneys in the Alexandria area, emitting smoke which was going straight up to Yahweh.

    In winter, the big cities of North America and Europe choked in the so-called pea-soup fogs. It came from coal fires, which is the source of at least some air pollution in China. On the other hand, some say, that the west exported their pollution problems to China. i.e. 'business' rather than pay for anti-pollution devices in their factories, just moved their factories to China.

    Maybe I could just point out now, that the solar power industry is growing fast in China, and perhaps that growth has caused the cost of solar based electricity generation to fall. Will its growth enable a reduction in pollution in China? Let's hope so for the sake of the Chinese, but if it happens it will be bad luck for Australia because we sell so much coal to China.

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