Is the book of mormon myth or history?
Are the Gospels real history or myth?
by Island Man 29 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Phizzy
Nothing that is written in the Bible or the Quran can be trusted as being accurate as to history, and we cannot trust that the words we have now written for us bear much resemblance to those of the original writers, or in the case of the Quran, the original speakers, as it was passed on orally for a long time before being written down. Which makes a nonsense of the claims of the guy in the second video, for the veracity of the Quran, all those words he has remembered came to him via "Chinese whispers".
Neither book has any provenance.
What we know of historical events is all interpretation , usually from people far removed in time and often place from those events. Probably the best picture we can get of a time in history is from people of that time, and of events, from eye-witnesses to those events. We still only get that persons views, memories and impressions though.
So, History and Accuracy do not belong in the same sentence.
Add to the mix that most writers have an agenda or basic motive that colours their view of things, and we can see that all we can do is "see through a glass darkly".
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ADJUSTMENTS
So Phizzy let me guess...... A-THE-IS-M???
If so atheism is part of occult worship so your own words just back fired back on you.
No doubt you found out what an atheist is and said that sounds good I'll be that! So who are you truly following think about it???
Check the HIS-STORY, I mean History...
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Bart Belteshassur
Good video. He makes very accurate points. However he does not explain the meaning of the Fig tree event or the conection with the temple. It would be to easy to dismiss the NT text as just myth and put it file 13, without considering the meaning of the events which are quoted and their historic background. I believe the fig tree was an emblem used by the Jewish Zealot movement and there appears to be a connection in this story with zealots producing fruit for the early christain movement, sorry thinking outload.
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Phizzy
"Atheism is part of occult worship". ???? If one is without god, (any god) how can worship be involved ?
I don't wish to derail this thread, so perhaps Adjustments you could start a new one to explain what the hell you are on about.
Back to the Topic.
None of the Bible is real history. None of it was written to be such.
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Bart Belteshassur
Phizzy- " None of the bible is real history. None of it was written to be such"
Have you asked the question, if the NT does not contain more than just myth why are there so many details of precise time of the day given in it, when the precise timing of an event is not needed in the myth. The times given indicate the need for detailed knowledge of what they represent. In the temple cult mornings and evenings was an indicator of the constant offering, but praying at 3pm in the after most show something that is more complex. If we consider the whole of the last supper to the accension it is riddled with times and precise days, that includes day 3 which is Tuesday by the way not Sunday morning.
If one starts with the view means nothing you will find nothing, if you search the text for patterns, strange grammer, and specifics which are not required you may find encryption. As the NT has had such an influence on modern life it is worth the investigation don't you think. The analysis must be from the original text in greek to remove pervertion from church doctrine.
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designs
The Gospels give different times for the birth of Jesus, how's that for openers.
Are there any historical documents that support Herod killing thousands of innocent babies.
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Finkelstein
The Gospels are real in that there are mythological stories told with a intent to cultivate consuming and sigificant relevance
to a supernatural Deity of which was strongly accepted back in ancient times.
Unfortunately since then various men over time have used these idealogical expressions to cultivate their own source of power and control
and the WTS. is just but one example of that.
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westiebilly11
herod did not kill thousands of babies...think about it.....bethlehem was a small town.....how many babies would there be ?.....context....