Self Proclaimed Faithful And Discreet Slave->Governing Body->CEOs Of Printing Company

by frankiespeakin 10 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  frankiespeakin

  In the Corporate world of the Watchtower a fantacy persist, it consists of a hodge podge of scriptures connected out of context to each other, and a imaginary issue of "Universal Soverneignty" between two competing entities: one all good and extremely powerful(almighty) and the other all bad and much weaker by comparison. Which leave the seduced reader of such fanacy with a black and white choice as to who's side they should be on.

  In their printed material of cherry picked facts and reasonings they lead their readers down the road of illogical assumptions that seem to the naive and ill-informed to make sense, as long as one suspends any critical examination of material printed by this Corporation.

  As the years have passed 1874-2013 illogical connections between scriptures leading to certain dates for their end of world predictions have failed with sad consquences for the trusting reader. This has led many to forsake this printing company, whom in turn have recieved the labels, traitors, evil slave, profitless talkers, children of the Devil, rebellious, apostate, etc.... which continues till the present.

  Unlike the Biblical stories of Divine appointments with accompaning miracles and heavenly signs such as turning rods into serpents, parting seas, calling fire from the sky, turning water into wine, raising the dead, feeding thousands with a few loaves and fishes, and miraculous healings,instead they can only point to higher volume of printed material and some illogically connected scriptures as dubious proof of divine appointment.

  As a purely self proclaimed authority based on highly illogical reasoning->leaps in logic steeped in black and white thinking, they have deluded themselves and their readers into service of a Printing Establishment that persists in magical thinking, where only the simple minded readers remain loyal even to the point of foresaking family and friends whom the Corporation labels as enemies of truth.

  Truley this is shaky ground to build a printing corporation with world wide circulation, they are well past their expiration date, they are selling expired goods made rotten over time by never ever comming true.
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  frankiespeakin

  With all this disadvantage management working as a Faithful and anything but Discreet Slave to the Corporation same old tirering song of "Trust In Jehovah And Not Men In Whom No Salvation Belongs, and a constant dumbing down of the rank and file by forbidding a good education at some college, expect no improvement in management of this dying Corporation run by delusional fantacies from the get go.

  They are deeply suspicious of intelligent people and think they are person to avoid, which means they are surround by a bunch of bottom feeding yes men who only know how to speak the party line to these mentally diseased the Corporation is God's thinkers.
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  Cold Steel

  It always comes back to divine authority.

  Who has it?

  How’d they get it?

  There are three possibilities:

  1. They always had it
  2. They got it through heavenly manifestations
  3. They don’t need it

  The Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox go for number 1. Jesus gave the keys to Peter and the other apostles who then passed it on through the bishops and other officers. The Anglican church also opts for number 1, arguing that God chooses and anoints kings as head and defenders of the church; however, this didn’t happen under Kings Saul, David and Solomon. All three got in trouble with prophets, and King Henry VIII would have gotten himself into trouble with Rome, but he excommunicated them and chose his own priesthood.

  The Mormons and the Seventh Day Adventists and its offshoots go for claim 2. Arguing that an apostasy took place, they declare that once the keys of authority are taken away, they can only be “restored” by a new dispensation of authority and spiritual gifts. Although the Adventists didn’t actually declare they had the keys, they believe they were conveyed by revelation to Ellen G. White.

  The Protestants and Jehovah’s Witnesses fall into the third category. When a person is baptized, they argue, they automatically become ministerial servants. Although males can baptize in an emergency in the JW faith, the elders and overseers seem to retain all the authority that counts. And though the Jehovah's Witnesses accuse other faiths of being “manmade” religions, the Governing Body of the Jehovah's Witnesses has never explained just how they are not a manmade religion. The Protestants, overall, also claim every member to be able to baptize in an emergency; however, they believe some individuals are “called” to the ministry. When asked about their authority in many cases, they proudly point to a certificate of “ordination” from a school of theology posted somewhere on a wall in their office.

  I’ve asked Jehovah's Witnesses if they’re able to baptize their children or their converts upon request, and the answer seems to be no.

  How the Governing Body of the Jehovah's Witnesses received its authority to act as a conduit from the Almighty has never been addressed in its publications. In short, how did the first GB member receive the authority now “assumed” by subsequent members of that body? Did they take this honor unto themselves? Jesus said, “Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you and ORDAINED you.”
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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  When a person is baptized, they argue, they automatically become ministerial servants.

  Not true. A "ministerial servant" in the Jehovah's Witness arrangement is an appointed position, similar to a "deacon" in other churches. A Ministerial servant is one step below Elder- an entry-level position in the hierarchy.

  How the Governing Body of the Jehovah's Witnesses received its authority to act as a conduit from the Almighty has never been addressed in its publications.

  Not true. It has been explained ad nauseum. But the explanation makes no more sense nor has any more evidence (read: none) to back it up than what the Catholics or Mormons present to support their claims.
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  Cold Steel

  When one is baptized, isn't one already considered a minister of the gospel? That and "ministerial servant" must be two different things. As for the GB, I've read about the "Apostasy," but how did the first person in that body receive the authority? They've argued that throughout the years since the church fell away, there has always been true witnesses of Jehovah. If they held apostolic keys, how did those keys of authority end up with the GB?

  Also, are ministerial servants permitted to do baptisms? What ranking must one attain to do that?
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  frankiespeakin

  Cold.

  Did they take this honor unto themselves? Jesus said, “Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you and ORDAINED you.”

  That's what the title says:"Self proclaimed appointment by a parable of a ficticous Master who leaves and gives his slave a house assignment and what happens when he comes back. From this they build their power structure no miracles, no holy spirit required to prove office holders are genuine. They can even make false prediction and still hold this office of corporation oversight.
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  Narcissistic Supply

  Deluded and hallucinating narcissists. Where's the mystery??
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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Cold Steel-

  Yes, minister ( a "publisher") and ministerial servant are two different things. When a person is baptized they are considered a minister automatically. A man can be appointed as a ministerial servant ("deacon") if he works for that position.

  Generally, only appointed Elders perform baptisms.

  but how did the first person in that body receive the authority?

  CT Russell christened himself as god's chosen servant. He originally taught the 'faithful slave' was a body of Christians, but for a time many considered him to be the 'faithful slave', and he made no effort to correct them. Russell was considered the faithful slave officially for many years after his death, then Rutherford changed that view. In recent doctrinal revisions, Russell has been relegated to the ranks of "also ran"; he's now considered by WT to have been a good Christian, but is no longer included as a member of the 'faithful slave' class. Poor Russell- demoted by the very religion he started....posthumously.

  Neither Russell, Rutherford nor any GB member has any proof they have been chosen by god. In fact, the very criteria they claim identifies them as the "faithful and discreet slave", ironically, also nullifies their claim. They do not measure up to the qualifications they themselves established. Other than their say so, there is no viable proof they've been appointed to their position by god or anyone else.
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  frankiespeakin

  The select ancient writtings about Deity worship found in the the 66 book bible are taken as literally, by this Corporation's Executives not realizing the context of the writting as they were written, a childishly niave approach to such writtings by every means.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSM3qMvN9JA

  Interesting Vid but the end conclusion sucks, how can a guy who did all this research still feel the 66 books of the bible had the hand of God watching over it? The part I like is it gives us some idea about how these books got chosen, but to say An Almighty Deity done it seems without any logical foundation almost as rediculous as saying they have been appointed by God and then make up a set of proofs that one fullfills that give no logical proof.

  Many Bible Literalist, keep forgetting that the ancient writting where before science became prevelant in society, and was a time when Kings & Religon where a convenient holy duo where it was important that God/Gods could be with the king and unite his kingdom making his subjects more loyal and so forth. They were manipulative writtings which imaginary national, city, or local Deity/Deities were used for desired results be it keeping the king in place and the people behind him it reflects the nonscientific view of the world at that time.
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  Black Man

  bookmarked!