Apostates At War With Jehovah's Delusional Organization Strategy

by frankiespeakin 23 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • frankiespeakin

    As the "truth about the truth' (delusional thinking bible interpetations) becomes more wide spread and the rate of JWs leaving the clutches of the WT corporation increases a war/battle results, it is true some are just happy to get out with no need to inflict any retaliatorial injury to the Corporation that held them hostage through deciet. Many on the other hand want to get their families out of this cult and a restoration of their good name from the cruel slander of an organization that has made a fortune off of their free labor and now forbids it members to have anything to do with them causing a great loss in former friends and family members. Is retailiation in order for these offenses? The answer is a personal one with no right or wrong answers.

    For those that need some ideas I offer the immensely influential ancient Chinese book on military strategy in a abreviated form, why not read it and see if any points can be used:


    • All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
    • If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
    • It is the rule in war, if ten times the enemy's strength, surround them; if five times, attack them; if double, be able to divide them; if equal, engage them; if fewer, be able to evade them; if weaker, be able to avoid them.
    • He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious.
    • The general who advances without coveting fame and retreats without fearing disgrace, whose only thought is to protect his country and do good service for his sovereign, is the jewel of the kingdom.
  • frankiespeakin
  • Narcissistic Supply
    Narcissistic Supply

    The Watchtowr is a parasite and it is eating itself. It doesn’t have a host when it loses the mind of an apostate.

    Every apostate that leaves the organization was previously a host for the parasite.
    You must fight the parasite in your mind. [4 Agreements. J.M Ruiz]
    The parasite is the thought and feeling that the organization controls you.
    The parasite is all of the thoughts and feelings and fragments of memories that the parasite has instilled in your mind to keep you entrapped.
    The parasite is all of the false and confounding information that the publishing company fed you.
    The HOST can survive this.
    You must fight the parasite in your mind.
    You may win and you may lose but at least you have the satisfaction of knowing you tried to fight the parasite( the publishing company.)

  • frankiespeakin

    The Enemy:




    Profits are its bottom line

    Hates higher education

    Has lots of money

    Has a big legal team

    Has lawsuits it is fighting

    Many failed date predictions for the end of the world

    Believes it is God's organization

    Doesn't tollerate dissent or independant thinking

    COs and DOs are an extention of the Corporations authority enforcement

    Source of wealth generation: property, free labor, printed material, asking for donations, investments in stocks, bonds, etc...

    Has a corrupted definition of meaning for words

    Sees imaginary enemies in every facet of the modern world

    Invites persecution to prove they are true christians and further separate members from the world

    Heavily ladened with leaps in logic and wishful thinking

    Has no proof of divine appointment

    Vilifies those who leave without exception

    Science conflicts with their cherished delusions

    Delights in flights of fantacy concerning destruction brought by jealous and slighted Diety

    The Internet seems to be their greatest threat at present due to readly availible information at ones finger tips

  • RayPublisher

    Interesting thread Frankie thanks... we are gonna kick WT$ ass by attrition.

  • frankiespeakin


    You mean this?


    Attrition warfare is a military strategy in which a belligerent side attempts to win a war by wearing down its enemy to the point of collapse through continuous losses in personnel and materiel .

    Strategic considerations [edit]

    Military theorists and strategists like Sun Tzu have viewed attrition warfare as something to be avoided. In the sense that attrition warfare represents an attempt to grind down an opponent through superior numbers, it represents the opposite of the usual principles of war, where one attempts to achieve decisive victories by using minimal necessary resources and in minimal amount of time, throughmaneuver, concentration of force, surprise, and the like. [2]

    On the other hand, a side which perceives itself to be at a marked disadvantage in maneuver warfare or unit tactics may deliberately seek out attrition warfare to neutralize its opponent's advantages. If the sides are nearly evenly matched, the outcome of a war of attrition is likely to be a Pyrrhic victory.

    The difference between war of attrition and other forms of war is somewhat artificial, since war always contains an element of attrition. However, one can be said to pursue a strategy of attrition when one makes it the main goal to cause gradual attrition to the opponent eventually amounting to unacceptable or unsustainable levels for the opponent while limiting your own gradual losses to acceptable and sustainable levels. This should be seen as opposed to other main goals such as the conquest of some resource or territory or an attempt to cause the enemy great losses in a single stroke (e.g. by encirclement and capture).

    Historically, attritional methods are tried when other methods have failed or are obviously not feasible. Typically, when attritional methods have worn down the enemy sufficiently to make other methods feasible, attritional methods are abandoned in favor of other strategies. In World War I, improvements in firepower but not communications and mobility forced military commanders to rely on attrition, with terrible loss of life.

    Attritional methods are in themselves usually sufficient to cause a nation to give up a non-vital ambition, but other methods are generally necessary to achieve unconditional surrender.

  • Vidiot

    Sun Tzu's work is good to keep in mind.

    Another thing I think some of us tend to forget is that many things XJWs hate about the WTS could be exploited as potential weaknesses.

    The most successful "apostate" campaign against the WTS would be one that doesn't feed the R&F's collective persecution complex, but does take advantage of those weaknesses to undermine the organization's ability to properly function.

    For example, Julian Assange of Wikileaks is of the opinion that the more internal documents get leaked from any authoritarian regime, the harder that regime will try to tighten its grip on information control, eventually escalating to the point where it self-censors so much (to avoid the leaks) that it cripples its own ability to communicate with itself.

    If the WTS is ever beaten, or declines, or crashes and burns, that - in and of itself - would be elegent proof that it is not "God's Earthly Organization". After all, if it was, it none of that would have happened, right?

    In the wake of the Conti case, there have been statements made to the effect that "...any legal case brought aginst the WT is doomed to fail even if it's technically in the right..." (paraphrasing, but that's the gist); I would submit that this sentiment is not the exception, but, is, in fact, the norm among men throughout the WT heirarchy who are commited to its regime.

    Historically, when despots come to believe they're invulnerable, their fall becomes a virtual certainty.

  • frankiespeakin


    Good points to consider. So an effective strategy of attrition would be to leak out information found in private correspondance thus crippling them through tighter self censorship. So defecting COs DOs save those letters the WT tells you to destroy and post them on the internet when opportunity is right. While there is an abundance of these I'm sure there are more to come.

  • frankiespeakin


    The term Information Warfare (IW) is primarily an American concept involving the use and management of information technology in pursuit of a competitive advantage over an opponent. Information warfare may involve collection of tactical information, assurance(s) that one's own information is valid, spreading of propaganda or disinformation to demoralize or manipulate [1] the enemy and the public, undermining the quality of opposing force information and denial of information-collection opportunities to opposing forces. Information warfare is closely linked to psychological warfare.

    The American focus tends to favor technology, and hence tends to extend into the realms of Electronic Warfare, Cyber Warfare, Information Assurance and Computer Network Operations / Attack / Defence.

    Most of the rest of the world use the much broader term of "Information Operations" which, although making use of technology, focuses on the more human-related aspects of information use, including (amongst many others) social network analysis, decision analysis and the human aspects of Command and Contro

  • frankiespeakin

    How about going door to door with a counterfeit WT hand bill look alike apologizing for all the false alarm armeggedon dates they have published, and child molesters they send out in feld service?


    Black propaganda is false information and material that purports to be from a source on one side of a conflict, but is actually from the opposing side. It is typically used to vilify, embarrass or misrepresent the enemy. [1] Black propaganda contrasts with grey propaganda, the source of which is not identified, and white propaganda, in which the real source is declared and usually more accurate information is given, albeit slanted, distorted and omissive. Black propaganda is covert in nature in that its aims, identity, significance, and sources are hidden.

    The major characteristic of black propaganda is that the people are not aware that someone is trying to influence them, and do not feel that they are being pushed in a certain direction. [2] Black propaganda purports to emanate from a source other than the true source. This type of propaganda is associated with covert psychological operations. [3] Sometimes the source is concealed or credited to a false authority and spreads lies, fabrications, and deceptions. Black propaganda is the "big lie," including all types of creative deceit. [4] Black propaganda relies on the willingness of the receiver to accept the credibility of the source. If the creators or senders of the black propaganda message do not adequately understand their intended audience, the message may be misunderstood, seem suspicious, or fail altogether. [4]

    Governments will generally conduct black propaganda operations for two different reasons. First, by using black propaganda a government is more likely to succeed in convincing their target audience that the information that they are seeking to influence them with is disguised and that its motivations are not apparent. Second, there are diplomatic reasons behind the use of black propaganda. Black propaganda is necessary to obfuscate a government's involvement in activities that may be detrimental to its foreign policies. [5]

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