Benjamin Crump: Dishonest hypocritical opportunist race-baiter?

by Simon 30 Replies latest members politics

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  designs

  But ol Limbaugh and his croonies are all right huh?
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  Simon

  His critics describe him as "a political radical who is to blame, in part, for the deterioration of race relations". Sociologist Orlando Patterson has referred to him as a racial arsonist

  I think it's a good description or Sharpton. Seems some others are lining up to take his place.

  He's a racist and riles people up. He is not helping the ethnicity he claims to represent.

  Sad that people listen to people like him instead of sensible moderates like Bill Cosby.
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  tootired2care

  But ol Limbaugh and his croonies are all right huh?

  What an aweful thing...so let's interfere with, and pervert justice just to make sure 'Limbaugh and his croonies' are wrong is that what your trying to convey with your comment?
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  Simon

  But ol Limbaugh and his croonies are all right huh?

  Hardly!

  Rush Limbaugh is just the flip side of Sharpton. I hate them all. If there were a 'purge' I wouldn't feel bad shutting my door on either of them.
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  designs

  Thanks for finally bringing up that comparison.
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  sammielee24

  There was an article that I read about Trayvon Martins step mother - not Fulton - but Martins step mother who gave an interview on CNN - Tracy Martins 2nd wife who raised Trayvon Martin for most of his life. She seemed to really care about him - a very interesting article that closes some links and puts forth a very good circle about why and how things ended as they have and how opportunity presents itself for many people to cash in on in one way or another.

  Thomas Sowell wrote a very interesting piece about this - I generally don't like many conservative writers but I respect him trying to make some sense of so many things - sammieswife

  Who Is Racist?

  Thomas Sowell | Jul 09, 2013

  I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

  Apparently other Americans also recognize that the sources of racism are different today from what they were in the past. According to a recent Rasmussen poll, 31 percent of blacks think that most blacks are racists, while 24 percent of blacks think that most whites are racist.

  The difference between these percentages is not great, but it is remarkable nevertheless. After all, generations of blacks fought the white racism from which they suffered for so long. If many blacks themselves now think that most other blacks are racist, that is startling.

  The moral claims advanced by generations of black leaders -- claims that eventually touched the conscience of the nation and turned the tide toward civil rights for all -- have now been cheapened by today's generation of black "leaders," who act as if it is all just a matter of whose ox is gored.

  Even in legal cases involving terrible crimes -- the O.J. Simpson murder trial or the charges of gang rape against Duke University students -- many black "leaders" and their followers have not waited for facts about who was guilty and who was not, but have immediately taken sides, based on who was black and who was white.

  Among whites, according to the same Rasmussen poll, 38 percent consider most blacks racist and 10 percent consider most whites racist.

  Broken down by politics, the same poll showed that 49 percent of Republicans consider most blacks racist, as do 36 percent of independents and 29 percent of Democrats.

  Perhaps most disturbing of all, just 29 percent of Americans as a whole think race relations are getting better, while 32 percent think race relations are getting worse. The difference is too close to call, but the fact that it is so close is itself painful -- and perhaps a warning sign for where we are heading.

  Is this what so many Americans, both black and white, struggled for, over the decades and generations, to try to put the curse of racism behind us -- only to reach a point where retrogression in race relations now seems at least equally likely as progress?

  What went wrong? Perhaps no single factor can be blamed for all the things that went wrong. Insurgent movements of all sorts, in countries around the world, have for centuries soured in the aftermath of their own success. "The revolution betrayed" is a theme that goes back at least as far as 18th century France.

  The civil rights movement in 20th century America attracted many people who put everything on the line for the sake of fighting against racial oppression. But the eventual success of that movement attracted opportunists, and even turned some idealists into opportunists.

  Over the generations, black leaders have ranged from noble souls to shameless charlatans. After the success of the civil rights insurgency, the latter have come into their own, gaining money, power and fame by promoting racial attitudes and actions that are counterproductive to the interests of those they lead.

  None of this is unique to blacks or to the United States. In various countries and times, leaders of groups that lagged behind, economically and educationally, have taught their followers to blame all their problems on other people -- and to hate those other people.

  This was the history of anti-Semitic movements in Eastern Europe between the two World Wars, anti-Ibo movements in Nigeria in the 1960s, and anti-Tamil movements that turned Sri Lanka from a peaceful nation into a scene of lethal mob violence and then decades-long civil war, both marked by unspeakable atrocities.

  Groups that rose from poverty to prosperity seldom did so by having racial or ethnic leaders. While most Americans can easily name a number of black leaders, current or past, how many can name Asian American ethnic leaders or Jewish ethnic leaders?

  The time is long overdue to stop looking for progress through racial or ethnic leaders. Such leaders have too many incentives to promote polarizing attitudes and actions that are counterproductive for minorities and disastrous for the country.
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  sooner7nc

  Golly Designs, you sure do like infer things don't you? If I say "this" you say "that" and vice versa.

  Well, I tell ya what, how about I infer you're a f***ing idiot? Hell, instead of infering it, how about I just say it? Ooop, guess I already did.
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  Simon

  I think that article makes a lot of sense. The current crop of 'leaders' don't seem to lead as much as cheer people on and the snap presumption of guilt or innocence is what their predecessors faught and bled to abolish.

  They are destroying the communities they claim to represent.
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  Simon

  Wow ... he thinks Treyvon Martin should be remembered alongside Medgar Evers.

  Way to cheapen the legacy of a great civil rights activist.

  TM should not be turned into something he wasn't but remembered for precisely what he was and exactly what he did.

  Maybe someone else will avoid following a similar path.

  The NAACP statement ... what are those dummies on?!?! It's like they are flushing previous civil rights achivements down the toilet.
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  Simon

  Only A Pawn In Their Game by Bob Dylan

  A bullet from the back of a bush took Medgar Evers’ blood
  A finger fired the trigger to his name
  A handle hid out in the dark
  A hand set the spark
  Two eyes took the aim
  Behind a man’s brain
  But he can’t be blamed
  He’s only a pawn in their game

  A South politician preaches to the poor white man
  “You got more than the blacks, don’t complain.
  You’re better than them, you been born with white skin,” they explain.
  And the Negro’s name
  Is used it is plain
  For the politician’s gain
  As he rises to fame
  And the poor white remains
  On the caboose of the train
  But it ain’t him to blame
  He’s only a pawn in their game

  The deputy sheriffs, the soldiers, the governors get paid
  And the marshals and cops get the same
  But the poor white man’s used in the hands of them all like a tool
  He’s taught in his school
  From the start by the rule
  That the laws are with him
  To protect his white skin
  To keep up his hate
  So he never thinks straight
  ’Bout the shape that he’s in
  But it ain’t him to blame
  He’s only a pawn in their game

  From the poverty shacks, he looks from the cracks to the tracks
  And the hoofbeats pound in his brain
  And he’s taught how to walk in a pack
  Shoot in the back
  With his fist in a clinch
  To hang and to lynch
  To hide ’neath the hood
  To kill with no pain
  Like a dog on a chain
  He ain’t got no name
  But it ain’t him to blame
  He’s only a pawn in their game.

  Today, Medgar Evers was buried from the bullet he caught
  They lowered him down as a king
  But when the shadowy sun sets on the one
  That fired the gun
  He’ll see by his grave
  On the stone that remains
  Carved next to his name
  His epitaph plain:
  Only a pawn in their game