Price gouging after natural disasters ... where should capitalism end?

by Simon 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • Simon
    Simon
    if u need something to survive, I should be able to charge u a price that most cannot afford? Like water?

    Do you think prices should be cheaper than they normally are? That doesn't sound realistic.

    We're not talking about refusing water to people about to die. We're talking about a small store charging their regular price to someone who wants to buy a lot of it. Maybe they should take less and let other people get some too.

    When this started we picked up some milk and bread from the local convenience store. When we wanted to buy a lot more volume of things (like water) we went to Costco. It's not a hardship. If I decide to get angry at the convenience store because they don't have the same quantity and low prices as costco is it them gouging or me being an idiot?

  • Sayswho
    Sayswho

    • Do you think prices should be cheaper than they normally are? That doesn't sound realistic.
    No but they should not go up...just because there is a greater need! When a chain store ups their price on supplies this is called supply and demand....the Gov allows it but when an individual sell, sets say plywood at a price above the normal they call it price gouging....this happened in SW Florida. SW
  • ABibleStudent
    ABibleStudent

    From a more environmentally friendly perspective, buy water filters instead of bottled water. Where do all those plastic bottles end up? How much energy is wasted manufacturing platic bottles, hauling bottled water, and disposing of plastic bottles? What would people do if roads or railroad tracks were unusable, so bottled water could not be delivered?

    Using a little intelligence, fore thought, and being personally responsible for your actions can save people lots of money. Something as simple as not living in a flood plain, tsunami area, or at the beach in an area known for hurricanes could save a person a lot more than $50 for a case of bottled water.

    Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

    Robert

  • 5go
    5go

    Good luck storing stuff for a diaster the last time I bought stuff in preperation for a disaster it was washed away in the disaster.

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    there is no need for the shopkeepers to double the price of common goods.

    Sure there is. My wife and I lived in Pullman, WA; about three hundred miles down wind of Mt St. Helens when it blew in 1980. Everything in that town comes in on a truck from somewhere. Interstate 90, the main road across the state was closed for a week by the ash fall. Trucks probably had to drive two or three hundred extra miles to get stuff into our area. That's extra gas and extra pay to the drivers. That has to get paid some how.

    A few things were funny, we did actually come close to running out of toilet paper. Pullman is a college town, at the time about sixteen thousand students in a town of 25,000. St Helens blew on Sunday morning, by Monday afternoon the entire town was out of beer. On Tuesday a distributor brought in an eighteen wheeler loaded with cheap beer. I think he came in on back roads from Lewiston, ID to dodge state patrol closures on the highway. The price in the stores was then about twice what it had been on Saturday and they sold all of it in hours. A good lesson in the law of supply and demand in an emergency.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Price gouging of this kind is actually good. You see, you have a commodity that is in short supply locally. Jack up the prices, you keep the lines to a minimum. At the same time, other vendors have incentive to ship in extra supplies into that area to sell at higher prices that make the extra work worthwhile. In time, that limits how high the prices can go--at some point, you are going to see vendors not being able to sell at higher prices, and the price will be driven down again. Equilibrium will be found again. Then, once the crisis ends, prices go back down quicker since there is extra supply on hand.

    It also encourages people to stock up on basics BEFORE needed. You are better off getting smaller quantities of supplies ahead of a disaster, at a time, to accumulate until you have a good stash. Then, once disaster hits, you can live a while off those supplies. Before those are depleted, hopefully "price gougers" from other areas have entered your area and the prices will be somewhat lower than without the outside supplies. This goes double for batteries and flashlights--I don't know how often stores run out of those things after a blackout.

    The alternative to price gouging is empty store shelves. If people cannot sell at above normal prices, they simply will not move in. Depleted supplies can take months to replenish after the crisis. Usually, with empty shelves, you get fights. You get that last case of water, that last pack of batteries, that last can of food, and 50 others are pxxxed because there is no more. A fight often results. If vendors could "gouge", outside vendors could have added more supplies. Higher prices is better than fights. It is also better than wasting time waiting in line for that last case of water, that last liter of gas, or that last pack of AA batteries.

  • Sayswho
    Sayswho

    Thank the Florida national guard...and not some of you greedy opportunist for delivering FREE WATER AND OTHER SUPPLIES after hurricane Charlie in 2004!

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/weather/hurricane/2004-08-16-charley_x.htm

    Take a hint people...

    SW

  • Sayswho
    Sayswho

    One more thing...if you pay more for your products to be delivered then charge accordingly this in NOT price gouging. However if your price did not go up and you charge more, then your are an opportunist:

    • Opportunism is the conscious policy and practice of taking selfish advantage of circumstances.

    You have become part of the problem that needs removed like a malignant tumor!

    SW

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    "Under the emergency management act in province of Alberta, price-gouging or price-fixing above normal levels
    during a state of local emergency is illegal and it would take some co-operation between ourselves and police,
    but individuals could be prosecuted for that,” Burrell told local Calgary radio station 660 News.

    ........................ photo mutley-ani1.gif ... OUTLAW

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    Nobody is complaining about the National Guard brining in free supplies. Most of us regard it as a good example of why we pay taxes. And the US government doesn't have to worry about what it costs to get stuff from one place to another.

    And waiting in line is just another form of paying the cost.

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