White Racist Churches.

by refiners fire 19 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    For a number of years now I have been involved with churches that would be labelled "racist". White supremacist churches.
    There have been two of these I have associated with:
    The "Church of Israel" which (until recently) was run by a man called Dan Gayman.A preacher who preached from the pulpit with a gun on his hip.
    The other was that movement which is referred to as "Identity".
    Christian Identity.
    Both of these churches tended to be seperationist. Keeping seperate from the world, hating the financial system and credit cards, obsessed with staying out of personal debt (which they call being in "usuary" to the Jews).
    Both churches believe, in a nut shell, that the white anglo saxons are Israel and that they have become lost and forgotten who they are. And that Israel must "wake up" to its Identity and return to the true worship that God requires. Much of this is old testament practise, observing the old Testament feast and holy days, etc.
    Until "Israel" realizes its identity, and returns Nationally to Gods service, trials and tribulations will continue for the White man (israelite).

    The white man(israelite) must stop race mixing with coloureds, something condemned in the Bible.(Old Testament) Biblical racists believe that none white persons are "Beasts of the field", frequently referred to in the Bible.

    The MALE Israelite must stop selling out his "dominion",which he does by recognizing women as equal.Because they are not. (Old testament)Women must be in subjection.As the Old Testament patriachs practised Polygamy, so to, Biblical recists have a bent towards Polygamy.

    The "Israelite" must do all he can to stop the machinations of the "serpent seed", those known as Jews.
    These are NOT Israelites, rather (depending which branch of Racism you are involved with) are anything from "Edomites"( descendants of Esau) or Sons of Satan, a genetic line started when Satan had sex with Eve. The original Sin.
    Racists believe that current trends toward racial intermarriage, intermixing, and the emancipation of women, are PLOTS by Satan to drag Israel further from true worship of Yahweh.

    The problem with this Biblical racism is that it is BIBLICAL.
    All their beliefs are drafted direct from the Old Testament.
    Israel in the Bible pillaged and annihilated its enemies.
    God himself repeatedly told them not to intermarry with the surrounding nations. etc.

    By the way, these are NOT my own views. I merely recite the views of racists.Probably most of the people on this board are oblivious of WHY they believe what they believe. How can you fight an enemy, if you dont understand where hes coming from?

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    Bible references

    Their basic contention is that Yahweh promised to make Israel a great and mighty nation, having dominion of the earth, and numbering as the "sands of the sea shore".Bringing blessing to all humanity.
    Have the Jews fullfilled this promise?
    Has the White man fullfilled this promise?

    Some prophetic utterances regarding "Israel":

    Genesis 12 verses 1-3
    I will make you a great nation....and make your name great...And in you all the nations and races of the earth shall be blessed..

    Deuteronomy 26 verse 19
    He shall set you, Israel, high above all nations which He has made
    Racists would contend that Israel as in the Jews has NEVER been a mighty nation.

    Genesis 13 verse 16
    I will make your descendants as the dust of the earth,so that if anyone can number the dust of the earth,then your descendants can also be numbered

    Genesis 28 verse 3 is an interesting one (Isaac to Jacob):
    May God almighty bless you and make you fruitful and multiply you, that you may become a company of peoples

    The jews of course are not a "company of peoples", but the white Israelite tribes are. I believe from memory Great Britain is the tribe of Benjamin, and America is the tribe of Manasseh.
    Cant recall which tribe the Germans are.

    Heres a big one that they love to use. New Testament.
    Matthew 15 verse 24:
    I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel
    Now you can Identify these lost sheep easily, they can ONLY be the ones who accept Christ. And who is that?
    In fact, for racists the evidence is glaring, right in our faces, but Israel is "blind" and cannot see who they thenselves are.

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge
    The MALE Israelite must stop selling out his "dominion",which he does by recognizing women as equal.Because they are not. (Old testament)Women must be in subjection.

    soooooo, this is a religion of all males, correct?

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    Not at all. The ones I know there are more women members than Males, because the guys (some of them) have multiple wives. In their view an
    Israelite male has a duty before God to care for as many Isralite women as he is able, unless of course, he feels especially fond of his one wife and is particularly considerate of her weakness and jealousy.
    The women do not "work" as such, unless it is home duty and childraising. Providing food and shelter is the males job.
    Of course, the government doesnt know about the plural marriage arrangements of these people, they engage in their own secret marriage ceremonies before God and Israel believers.
    I knew this one guy, he would go, with his main wife, to Baptist churches and they would become regulars. After a little while theyd start looking for potential wives for him. Focusing on single girls, kicked out of home, low self esteem.They would offer them a home, a loving environment, and gradually introduce them to the "Israel" doctrine and plurality of marriage.
    It was a plan that worked for him.

  • Kenneson
    Kenneson

    Since the topic is on racism in white churches, the readers of
    this forum will be interested to read the following:
    http://www.premier1.net/~raines/discrimination.htm

    Even JWs are not free from racism!

  • COMF
    COMF

    I have been involved

    What was the nature of your involvement?

    churches that would be labelled "racist".

    By whom? By you?

  • Xena
    Xena

    I believe ANYONE would consider this..

    The white man(israelite) must stop race mixing with coloureds, something condemned in the Bible.(Old Testament) Biblical racists believe that none white persons are "Beasts of the field", frequently referred to in the Bible.
    racist Comf
  • Kenneson
    Kenneson

    That address doesn't pull up the page. The quickest way to find the paper written by Bergman is to look up JWs, Blacks and Discrimination.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    I believe the "u" in the word "coloured" makes it Australian, not racist, Xena.

  • Xena
    Xena

    How is that six?

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