Is there one scripture you like to show JWs and why ?

by Pterist 15 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • SAHS

    Deuteronomy 18:20-22: `However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 And in case you should say in your heart: “How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?” 22 when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it. You must not get frightened at him.’

    This takes a bit of the sting out of the fear some might have of sinning against the holy spirit just because of not conforming to/agreeing with the WTS, and, of course, it certainly helps with the indoctrinated fear of being executed at Armageddon. The above passage is a great "natural remedy" for such fear.

  • Muddy Waters
    Muddy Waters

    The verse at Psalms 146:4, which says: "Do not put your trust in earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs..."

    Guess the JWs believe this applies to everybody except the GB.

  • PSacramento
    There is a text somewhere in the prophets that says, "Woe to those who crave the day of Jehovah" Do I have to spell out why?

    That is Amos 5:18

    18 Alas, you who are longing for the day of the Lord ,
    For what purpose will the day of the Lord be to you?
    It will be darkness and not light;

    In COntext:

    Amos 5

    New American Standard Bible (NASB)

    “Seek Me that You May Live”

    5 Hear this word which I take up for you as a dirge, O house of Israel:
    2 She has fallen, she will not rise again—
    The virgin Israel.
    She lies neglected on her land;
    There is none to raise her up.

    3 For thus says the Lord God ,

    “The city which goes forth a thousand strong
    Will have a hundred left,
    And the one which goes forth a hundred strong
    Will have ten left to the house of Israel.”

    4 For thus says the Lord to the house of Israel,

    “Seek Me that you may live.
    5 “But do not resort to Bethel
    And do not come to Gilgal,
    Nor cross over to Beersheba;
    For Gilgal will certainly go into captivity
    And Bethel will come to trouble.
    6 “Seek the Lord that you may live,
    Or He will break forth like a fire, O house of Joseph,
    And it will consume with none to quench it for Bethel,
    7 For those who turn justice into wormwood
    And cast righteousness down to the earth.”

    8 He who made the Pleiades and Orion
    And changes deep darkness into morning,
    Who also darkens day into night,
    Who calls for the waters of the sea
    And pours them out on the surface of the earth,
    The Lord is His name.
    9 It is He who flashes forth with destruction upon the strong,
    So that destruction comes upon the fortress.

    10 They hate him who reproves in the gate,
    And they abhor him who speaks with integrity.
    11 Therefore because you impose heavy rent on the poor
    And exact a tribute of grain from them,
    Though you have built houses of well-hewn stone,
    Yet you will not live in them;
    You have planted pleasant vineyards, yet you will not drink their wine.
    12 For I know your transgressions are many and your sins are great,
    You who distress the righteous and accept bribes
    And turn aside the poor in the gate.
    13 Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time.

    14 Seek good and not evil, that you may live;
    And thus may the Lord God of hosts be with you,
    Just as you have said!
    15 Hate evil, love good,
    And establish justice in the gate!
    Perhaps the Lord God of hosts
    May be gracious to the remnant of Joseph.

    16 Therefore thus says the Lord God of hosts, the Lord,

    “There is wailing in all the plazas,
    And in all the streets they say, ‘Alas! Alas!’
    They also call the farmer to mourning
    And professional mourners to lamentation.
    17 “And in all the vineyards there is wailing,
    Because I will pass through the midst of you,” says the Lord .

    18 Alas, you who are longing for the day of the Lord ,
    For what purpose will the day of the Lord be to you?
    It will be darkness and not light;
    19 As when a man flees from a lion
    And a bear meets him,
    Or goes home, leans his hand against the wall
    And a snake bites him.
    20 Will not the day of the Lord be darkness instead of light,
    Even gloom with no brightness in it?

    21 “I hate, I reject your festivals,
    Nor do I delight in your solemn assemblies.
    22 “Even though you offer up to Me burnt offerings and your grain offerings,
    I will not accept them;
    And I will not even look at the peace offerings of your fatlings.
    23 “Take away from Me the noise of your songs;
    I will not even listen to the sound of your harps.
    24 “But let justice roll down like waters
    And righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.

    25 “Did you present Me with sacrifices and grain offerings in the wilderness for forty years, O house of Israel? 26 You also carried along Sikkuth your king and Kiyyun, your images, the star of your gods which you made for yourselves. 27 Therefore, I will make you go into exile beyond Damascus,” says the Lord , whose name is the God of hosts.

  • undercover

    I Thessalonians 4:11

    and to make it your aim to live quietly and to mind your o wn business...

  • Phizzy

    Luke 21 v 8 , not often referred to over the years by the WT, I wonder why ? it says:

    "He said "Lookout that you are not misled, for many will come on the basis of my name, saying 'I am he', and 'The due time has approached'.

    Do not go after them." (do not follow their lead, they are false guides)

    "I am he," , he being Christ,so many would come saying they were the Anointed (Christ= anointed), and that the "Time is near" as other Translations have it.

    Who does that remind you of ?

  • sd-7

    Matthew 28:20: "And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the systems of things."

    Was Jesus saying he was going to be invisibly present from 33 C.E. on? If he was "with you", how is it possible that 99.9% of Christians after 100 C.E. were in an apostate form of Christianity for 1800 years? Was he, in fact, lying, when he knew that his presence would not begin until 1874 1914?


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