THIS MAN proved that God exists and he did it effortlessly! (page 2)

MrFreeze

Here's a great video for you CA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdUYw59ztyw

EntirelyPossible

I said "atheist thought" not atheist. An atheist must claim that something came from nothing.

You are still wrong. Atheism and atheist thought merely makes claims about a lack of beleifs in gods. You are adding something that isn't there.

And you know what nothing means.

I want to know what you mean. It's a simple question, why such hesitancy to answer it?

But we both know that nothing is the absence of anything quantitative.

So there can be something non-quantitave? Nothing can actually be something?

Trying to answer how nothing comes from something by questioning definitions does not state your case.

I am trying to understand YOUR case. For instance, your definition of atheist thought is incorrect and your definition of "nothing" means nothing could include something. Your assertions are both wrong and unclear.

Where else can we demonstrate, or observe NOTHING coming from SOMETHING?

Not sure, since you have defined nothing as possibly something.

james_woods

We should remember that Terry is not very good as a devils advocate, as he is himself an atheist.

Knowsnothing

In that degree their goodness is derrived from the most supremely good among them.

I'll just try tackle this one. Sometimes, the sum of the parts is greater than the individual parts themselves. This argument fails at recognizing this.

Also, who defines good?

Terry

The King of all Wibble sez: We should remember that Terry is not very good as a devils advocate, as he is himself an atheist.

Inaccurate, kind sir!

I cannot claim to KNOW there is no god. How could I prove it? I claim to be ignorant of the existence of god as a provable or proven.

Slice it, dice it, mince it, blintz it.....it is a non-known, yet, it is often asserted.

james_woods

I stand corrected - Terry joins me as an agnostic - for somewhat the same reasons.

glenster

I understand faith or not in a possible God.

"Anselm's argument was not presented in order to prove God's existence;
rather, Proslogion was a work of meditation in which he documented how the
idea of God became self-evident to him."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontological_argument#Anselm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proslogion

PS: it's brought up in chap. eight of Adler's book.

james_woods

I understand faith or not in a possible God.

This is the kind of statement that sent me towards math and science rather than religion or philosophy.

jam

Why is there something rather than nothing? Well not

only can something arise from nothing, something will

arise from nothing. Mr Lawarence Krauss...

The ultimate question as crazy as it might seem, energy

may have come out of nothing. The meaning of "nothing"

is somewhat ambiguous here. It might be the vacuum

in some pre-existing space and time, or it could be nothing

at all- that is, all concepts of space and time were created

with the universe itself. Mr. A. Filippenko

With that being said, I have nothing else to say.

EntirelyPossible

If it weren't for the pithiness and precision of EntirelyPossible I'd just stay home and knit cravats!

Thanks for easing the burden old chum!

Just noticed this, Terry. Thanks! Back at you! Next time I get to Dallas, we should grab a beer. Or a taco! Or a steak!

THIS MAN proved that God exists and he did it effortlessly!

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