HOW to get Holy Spirit, the spirit of truth, etc.

by EndofMysteries 12 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    dear EndofMysteries...

    you said: " Everything in the new testament also shows no human instructors, except for giving a foundation, but that anybody can get holy spirit."...

    ok...Jesus was talking to His disciples who He had already instructed as to Who the "foundation" is...the disciples all had the CORRECT FOUNDATION which they could build on in their ministry to their congregations. The bible teaches that only those who are in union with the Father and the Son are given the Holy Spirit which will lead them into all truth...this is entirely different than "anybody can get holy spirit"...the Holy Spirit is only given to those who are in union with the Father and the Son...AND in order to be in union with the Father and the Son you have to have been taught who the Father and the Son are, that would be the CORRECT FOUNDATION.

    Since you dismiss the fact that the catholic church IS the historic church that Jesus Christ started building upon and since you dismiss further building or "growth" in that historic church by way of the protestant reformation AND you dismiss the foundation that they are building on but instead go your own way in forming your own FOUNDATION...you very much are your own human instructor......I think that is why you are all over the map, EoM.

    1 corinthians 3:11 declares that Jesus Christ is the correct foundation. So if you don't know who Jesus Christ the man IS then you don't have the correct foundation...even some who believed that He was the Messiah didn't have the correct foundation...and they were baptised into the name of the Lord Jesus (acts 8:16-17)...there is a foundational apostolic teaching in the command that Jesus gives to those who are to go into the world TEACHING and making disciples (matthew 28:19)

    Now, if you start teaching yourself with your own FOUNDATION...why would you expect the Holy Spirit to lead you into all the other truth?

    love michelle

  • Lozhasleft
    Lozhasleft

    EOM ~ For the record the NWT puts 'YOU' in capitals when the 'you' in the Greek is in the plural form

    Loz x

  • cofty
    cofty

    When I began to learn TTATT, it was not from anything online, it was actually from the spirit of truth as I was reading the bible

    I also never read anything online or any anti-JW books until long after I left the borg. I studied the bible and read lots of old WT publications and figured it out using my brain. No "spirit of truth" required.

    I think you are reading far too much into stuff that is actually quite mundane.

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