the false prophets.

by serein 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • serein
    serein

    are jehovahs wittneses a prophet of God.

    Are the govening body a prophet of the true and living,

    God? There are two ways to find out. First, compare

    what they say to Scripture and if what the Prophet teaches contradict Scripture,

    then he is false. The second way is to examine any prophecies that they have made.

    If a single prophecy fails, then the person is a false prophet.

    Please note that having several fulfilled prophecies and even a single false

    prophecy still means that the person is not a true prophet of God. The test for

    a prophet is not if he gets them most right, but all right. The Bible tells

    us...

    But the prophet who shall speak a word presumptuously in My name which I

    have not commanded him to speak, or which he shall speak in the name of other

    gods, that prophet shall die.And you may say in your heart,

    How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?

    When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not

    come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not

    spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be

    afraid of him

    We can see that the criteria of a true prophet is not failing when predicting

    the future. This is because God, who is outside of time and the creator of the

    universe, makes no mistakes when he tells us what will happen. Those prophets

    whom he has called will not make a mistake and prophesy the future, since to do

    so would mean the person is not speaking on God's behalf. Therefore, if anyone

    claims to be a prophet of God and speaks in the name of God and gives a prophecy

    that fails, then the person is not of God. they have predicted many times of dates of when the world would end.

    they never came about.i asked a brother once why if they say it was the end and it didnt happen why should i beleive anything they say,he said becouse no one is perfect and somtimes people didnt get it right and that they dont predict the date of the end anymore.

    this was in a study i had.

    anyways what im trying to say is just becouse they say they got it wrong dosnt mean they are forgiven and they are now right.if they got it wrong in first place they are wrong and were never from god and still are not now.

  • Think About It
    Think About It

    All churches are false prophets. All of them have made false claims and changed teachings & interpretations. There is no "true" Christian church. Some are more "established & tradional", some take themselves to "cult" level. All in all....they are just a brand of religion someone picks.

    Think About It

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech

    they weasel out of this very easily!

    we know though that they are false prophets!

    they also try to take God's place by judging others

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    Are Jehovah's Witnesses a prophet of God.

    No they are false teachers and false prophets who are under control of a commercialized false prophet/profit, the Watchtower Corporation.

    Just because someone who self proclaims to be a Christian, gives a public talk and at the end of this talk has books to

    sell, doesn't mean they are true faithful Christians. They may be exploiters of the belief in god and the bible as a means to cultivate their own

    power and wealth, more aptly described has being power seeking charlatans.

  • Darth Rutherford
    Darth Rutherford

    ThinkAboutIt... you're absolutely right. All churches are false prophets. The apostasy from the true faith would continue until Christ actually returns. No ifs, ands, or buts.

    Luke 21:8 shuts down every Witness when I explain it to them. They cannot overcome it. However, most shrink back and take another blue pill.

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/217255/1/Luke-21-8-Who-Should-We-Really-Avoid

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    A worthy re-posting Darth

    Luke 21:8 - Who Should We Really Avoid?

    In his sign of the Last Days, Jesus warned his followers: “Look out that YOU are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time has approached.’ Do not go after them.” (Luke 21:8) Jesus provides clues that help us identify who to avoid. What are those clues? What can we learn from this warning and how can we avoid being misled?

    “Many will come on the basis of my name’

    First, we are told these deceivers will come on the basis of Jesus’ name. What does it mean to come on the basis of his name? This doesn’t necessarily mean they come claiming to be Jesus, but rather they come claiming to be authorized by him. For example, when we pray "in Jesus’ name" we are not claiming to be Jesus. Rather, we are expressing faith in Jesus Christ, recognizing him as the sole channel through which we are authorized to speak to God.

    Jesus warns us of people or groups who would come on the basis of his name. In fact, this is why they could easily mislead the disciples, for they would appear to be authentic, expressing faith in Jesus and recognizing his role in God’s purposes. Coming on the basis of Christ’s name indicates that such deceivers are professing to be Christian. They will claim that they recognize Jesus’ headship, and are authorized and supported by Christ.

    Since all Christians recognize Jesus’ headship, other traits of this deceptive group are also provided to assist us in identifying who we should avoid.

    “Saying… ‘I am he’”

    Next, Jesus reveals that these people or groups would be saying “I am [he].” Some translations render this verse as “I am the Messiah” or “I am Christ”, likely because the parallel scripture in Matthew 24:5 uses the Greek word Khri-stos', or Christ. However, in Luke’s account the actual Greek phrase literally says “I am.” Does this mean that those misleading the disciples would claim to be Christ or Messiah?

    The fact that they come on the basis of Jesus’ name shows they do recognize Christ Jesus’ authority; therefore, they are not actually claiming to be Jesus Christ, but rather someone authorized by Jesus. In the Scriptures, the term “Christ” is frequently used as a title for anointed priests, kings, and prophets. For example, Aaron the high priest was regarded as "messiah" or “the anointed one” at Leviticus 4:5. In saying “I am he”, Jesus warned that those coming would claim to fulfill an anointed or Christ-like role in behalf of God’s people. They would profess to be the promised “Anointed One” authorized by Jesus to come and take the lead of his disciples.

    “Saying… ‘The due time has approached’”

    In addition to saying “I am he”, these people or groups would also proclaim that “the due time has approached.” To what "due time" or "appointed time" would they be alluding? Luke chapter 21 as well as the parallel accounts at Matthew chapter 24 and Mark chapter 13 are in response to the questions the apostles asked regarding when Jerusalem would be destroyed, and the signs indicative of Christ’s presence and the conclusion of the system of things (the Sign of the Son of Man). The “due time” they would proclaim, therefore, relates to the fulfillment of these events.

    Yes, according to them, the “due time” will have “approached”, or “drawn near”. Some translations render the phrase as “at hand” or “has come”. However, the thought is clear: they would be teaching that the imminent fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy was at hand. By making this proclamation, it becomes obvious that these people are heavily focused on dates and times, and since they effectively mislead others, Scriptural calculations to support their proclamations are likely easily provided.

    “Do not go after them”

    Lastly, Jesus tells his disciples to “not go after them.” This implies that these deceivers would, indeed, require others to follow them. Why should they be avoided? If a person, or a group of people, should claim that they are fulfilling a saving Christ-like role for others in view of the approaching fulfillment of prophecy, and have been authorized by Christ Jesus to do so, then following them will be emphasized as vital for one’s survival; however, in doing so, the person or group would subtly replace Jesus Christ as the vehicle necessary for salvation. As the world of mankind faced imminent destruction from God, they would be the "ark" necessary for survival. Our committed association would be required as followers, and they would become our mediator for life. However, Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life.” (John 14:6) Likewise, the Bible states “Do not put YOUR trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.” (Psalm 146:3) Yes, Jesus makes it clear that following men for salvation is wrong.

    Do not be deceived!

    Some teach that this part of Jesus’ prophecy was fulfilled only in the first century prior to the fall of Jerusalem and not applicable to Christians in modern times. However, if this is true, then the other parts of the sign - the wars, disorders, earthquakes, and food shortages - are also applicable only to the first century and have no modern-day fulfillment. Yet, if we look at these other parts of Jesus’ sign as proof that we are currently living in the Last Days, then we cannot ignore the fact that there are also Christian-deceivers on the scene today actively misleading Christ’s disciples.

    As disciples of Jesus Christ, let us not be deceived! Just as he clearly provided signs that would identify his presence as well as the conclusion of the system of things, he also provided a clear sign as to who his disciples should avoid following. Many people and groups would appear and successfully mislead a portion of Christ’s disciples. They would be effective at their deception because they would appear authentic. They would recognize Jesus as Head of the congregation, and provide evidence – even by using the Scriptures – that they have been chosen, or anointed, to lead Christ’s true disciples while proclaiming that the due time for the fulfillment of Bible prophecy has approached.

    Unfortunately, countless individuals have been misled, and many more are at risk. Before following any person, group, or organization, it would behoove a Christian to meditate on Luke 21:8, using Jesus’ words as a litmus test to discern what course to take. Additionally, it would be wise to ask yourself: Would our Heavenly Father raise up a "prophet" or "true" religion" that exudes the same characteristics of those Jesus Christ warned his followers to avoid?

  • trailerfitter
    trailerfitter

    Ha Ha ,...watch out for those who are willing to show others faults are certainly hiding theirs.... lesson in life well learned!!

  • serein
    serein

    they proclaim the end is near since there beginings gave dates that never happend change old light for new, how can they possible be the true prophets of god.

  • serein
    serein

    they proclaim the end is near since there beginings gave dates that never happend change old light for new, how can they possible be the true prophets of god.

  • mP
    mP

    the bible itself is a false prophet. there are no prophecies, many can easilty be explained as quite liberal reading after the fact or simply edits after the event happened. this makes the bible history not prophecy.

Share this

Google+
Pinterest
Reddit