As A JW - How Often Did This Happen?

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  • BroMac
    BroMac

    When it comes to settling problems with a fellow believer, or perhaps we have offended or maybe stumbled somebody unknowingly, how often has Jesus words at Matt 18:15-17 been ignored, where the default setting of most JW's is to go straight to the Elders.

    Has this priciple ever been 'updated' in later articles? Or would this still be the most valid?

    I must say as WT articles go, i can't find much wrong with this and find it reasonable well written and balanced.


    *** w65 5/15 pp. 297-303 pars. 5-16 Settling Difficulties in Christian Love ***

    5 Even among the first-century Christians who lived when the power of God’s holy spirit was manifest in so many miraculous and marvelous ways, personal difficulties did present themselves. One example of such is briefly mentioned by the apostle Paul in Philippians 4:2, 3, where we read: “Euodia I exhort and Syntyche I exhort to be of the same mind in the Lord. Yes, I request you too, genuine yokefellow, keep assisting these women who have fought side by side with me in the good news along with Clement as well as the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life.” Now here were two spiritual sisters, evidently mature in the knowledge of God’s Word, who had worked side by side with the apostle Paul and others in the preaching of the good news, and yet they were having some difficulty in solving a problem that had arisen between them. So much so that it had come to the attention of the apostle and he saw fit to mention it in his letter to the congregation at Philippi, encouraging them to do their utmost to settle their problem. At the same time Paul asked that a mature Christian brother help them to work it out peacefully in the event that they could not do so themselves, so that they might be “of the same mind in the Lord.”

    THE BASIS FOR SETTLING DIFFICULTIES

    6 Just how that particular problem was finally worked out we do not know, since no further mention is made of it in the Scriptures. However, we do know that some thirty years earlier Christ Jesus, when he was on the earth, not only recognized that such problems would arise among his imperfect and sinful followers but also, in his wonderful wisdom, provided the solution for them. It is quite probable, then, that these two Christian women, on being admonished by the apostle Paul, would follow the sound counsel given by their Master in trying to solve their personal problem, and doing that very thing today in this twentieth century enables Jehovah’s witnesses to solve and eliminate many of their personal differences in Christian love. What is this formula? It is one found in the book of Matthew, chapter 18, verses 15 to 17. There Jesus begins by saying: “Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, . . . ” By these words Jesus gave recognition to the fact that problems might arise among his true Christian followers. He then proceeded to give the solution, which consisted of three definite steps to be taken by the one offended or sinned against. (1) “Go lay bare his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.” (2) “But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, in order that at the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter may be established.” (3) “If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation.” A simple formula, you say? Yes, truly it is, and one that should not be overlooked or ignored in trying to settle any difficulties of a personal nature in Christian love.

    7 Now, then, for the benefit of our readers who may not have had an opportunity to see this formula applied in a practical way in their daily lives, let us explore it just a little farther. Let us suppose that you find yourself in a situation where you feel that another person has sinned against you or offended you. What will you do? Well, even before you take the first step quoted above, there is something else you should do in order to settle the difficulty in Christian love, and that is to think the matter over calmly and quietly in the light of your knowledge of the Scriptures, remembering that your desire is that you and your Christian brother be of “the same mind in the Lord.” Ask yourself such questions as these:

    Is the matter serious enough to merit taking it up with my brother?

    If I do not mention it, is there the chance that it will dissipate itself without further ado?

    Did my brother do it intentionally, or was it just a slip of the tongue of which he is not even aware?

    Could I just forgive and forget?

    The Biblical proverb is very apt here: “Where there is no wood the fire goes out.” (Prov. 26:20) Remember, too, the words of the inspired apostle: “Love is long-suffering and kind. . . . It does not keep account of the injury. . . . It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.” (1 Cor. 13:4-7) Also, Peter wrote: “Love covers a multitude of sins.” (1 Pet. 4:8)

    So why not let your love for your brother cover over his sin against you, just as you hope that his love for you will cover over many of your own weaknesses and offenses against him? Many, many difficulties can be eliminated by making this preliminary analysis of the situation in Christian love.

    “BETWEEN YOU AND HIM ALONE”

    8 On the other hand, it may be that, after making this analysis of the problem, you are convinced that it is not a trivial thing and you cannot just forget it. Then you must act promptly. Do not leave it to rankle in your mind and grow out of all proportion, with the possibility of causing you to lose your spiritual well-being. In this case the one offending against you has not followed the principle stated in Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount: “If, then, you are bringing your gift to the altar and you there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar, and go away; first make your peace with your brother, and then, when you have come back, offer up your gift.” (Matt. 5:23, 24)

    So you must take the first step of Jesus’ formula in Matthew 18:15-17: “Go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.” What fine, practical counsel! Jesus recognized the human tendency to want to talk about the matter with others before going to our brother, but, no, do not do that! Rather, go to him alone. “The one covering over transgression is seeking love, and he that keeps talking about a matter is separating those familiar with one another.” (Prov. 17:9) Rather than trying to seek sympathy from others for your cause, with the danger of being a gossiper, the course of practical wisdom is to talk privately with the offender. A calm discussion of the matter between you and him alone may result in having your mutual love for each other cover over his sin, and it may be quickly forgotten.—Eph. 4:26.

    9 But wait just one moment! Before going to him to discuss the matter, consider: what is your motive in taking this first step to solve your difficulty? Is it merely to prove to him that he has wronged you, and to bring him to his knees to seek your forgiveness? By no means; there should be no attempt here at self-justification. Jesus said: “If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.” Ah! There, then, is the correct motive: to gain your brother. You want to effect a reconciliation between you and him, to be at unity again, and at the same time to get personal relief by clearing your mind of this matter that has been troubling you. But, remember, love “does not look for its own interests.” (1 Cor. 13:5) Of course, as he has violated some Christian principle, then we also want to help him to recover himself from his wrong course, as Paul wrote in Galatians 6:1: “Try to restore such a man in a spirit of mildness, as you each keep an eye on yourself, for fear you also may be tempted.” However, in many instances the difficulty is due, not so much to a breach of Christian principles, but to a misunderstanding on the part of the one or the other. So for that reason, too, you should take this first step with the primary motive of becoming reconciled to your brother. In order to reach that goal you should be ready and willing to make some concessions or give in a little too. Hence it is wise at this time to pause and think of a possible previous occasion when you may have been the one who had offended another and how difficult it was to humble yourself and apologize so as to effect a reconciliation then. It certainly was not easy, was it? So be ready to make some concessions in order to help your brother. Think, too, of the happiness that resulted for you and the other brother when you did become united again and that made it all worthwhile. Recalling such an occasion will help you to get into the proper frame of mind now to talk to the brother who has offended you, and you are now ready to take the first step in solving your difficulty in Christian love.

    10 How often it happens that, if you approach your brother in this manner, you find him in the same frame of mind! He is only too eager and anxious to cooperate in solving the difficulty, and a few minutes is all that is necessary to effect a complete reconciliation. Or it may be that, after hearing his side of the story, you realize that you had an entirely erroneous view of the matter, and by airing both sides privately it is possible to reach an amicable agreement. This is as stated in the proverb: “The one first in his legal case is righteous; his fellow comes in and certainly searches him through.” (Prov. 18:17) How necessary it is, then, to avoid any feeling of self-righteousness when we take this first step, and, instead, be ready and willing to be searched through by the opinion of the other. At any rate, if a reconciliation is reached on this first step, peace and happiness will result to the parties concerned.

    “TAKE ALONG WITH YOU ONE OR TWO MORE”

    11 On the other hand, it may be that, for some reason or other, this first step fails and no reconciliation is reached. In spite of all your efforts you were unable to get through to your brother and settle the matter. What then? Do not give up. Rather, your love for your brother will make you persevere in your desire to make peace with him and to right the wrong that has been committed. In some instances one might think that the best thing to do now would be to write a letter to the Watch Tower Society and ask for their help in solving the difficulty; and certainly the Society is ready and willing to help when necessary. But it should be realized that it is very difficult to present the complete picture in a letter, no matter how many pages are written. And really there is a more direct way to solve the problem. For right there in the local congregation of Jehovah’s witnesses you have an appointee of the Society who is qualified to give you the necessary help, and that is the congregation overseer. Is the overseer not spoken of as being “like a hiding place from the wind and a place of concealment from the rainstorm, like streams of water in a waterless country, like the shadow of a heavy crag in an exhausted land”? (Isa. 32:1, 2) Moreover, the apostle Paul showed that these individual overseers were as “gifts in men” from God for the very purpose of strengthening and upbuilding the congregation. (Eph. 4:8) So let us take advantage of these “gifts” from God in our midst by seeking their aid in solving any personal problems that may arise.

    12 It can now be appreciated how necessary it is for the overseer to be approachable, loving and understanding so that each member of the congregation may feel free at any time to go to him for help. An inspired overseer of the first century wrote: “We, though, who are strong ought to bear the weaknesses of those not strong, and not to be pleasing ourselves.” (Rom. 15:1) So the Christian overseer will make himself available to his brothers in the faith. He will not be too busy to listen to their problems but, rather, will take a genuine interest in the spiritual welfare of all those in the congregation. Before meetings and after them, while working with them in the ministry and when making brief, friendly visits with them in their homes, he will show himself to be “like a hiding place from the wind . . . and like the shadow of a heavy crag” to his spiritual brothers, and they will automatically turn to him when help is needed to solve a personal problem.

    13 In the light of the foregoing we can appreciate the reasonableness of going to the congregation overseer or some other mature brother in the congregation, explaining briefly the problem and asking one or two such persons to go along to talk to the offending brother. (Matt. 18:16) Just as in the first step, the primary motive is still to try to ‘gain your brother.’ So the mature brothers, too, will bear in mind that they are going along, not necessarily to decide who is right and who is wrong or to render a decision in the matter, but, rather, to help in effecting a reconciliation between the two parties by the use of the Scriptures and sound counsel given therein. They will be certain to listen to both sides carefully and without prejudice. By thus calmly airing the matter before a third party it may be that any misunderstanding can be clarified and a reconciliation readily reached. Or it may be necessary for the overseer to bring to bear certain Scriptural principles previously overlooked by the ones involved. He will not arbitrarily try to impose a solution on them but, rather, he will let the Scriptures talk, so that the brothers will appreciate that it is not mere human wisdom but that it is Jehovah counseling them through his written Word. After the Scriptural counsel is given it is often effective to ask the offending one for a suggestion as to how the wrong might be righted. His love for Jehovah God and for his brother will in many instances guide him in making a suggestion that may successfully lead to a solution to the difficulty. When this is achieved, how wonderful it is to see the two reconciled again to each other and unity prevailing between them! There is once again an atmosphere of joy and contentment that will enable them to continue to serve together without resentment.

    IN CHRISTIAN LOVE

    14 We cannot overemphasize at this point the need to exercise that greatest of all fruits of the spirit, Christian love, in order to attain success in applying Jesus’ formula for solving personal difficulties. “Love never fails. . . . Now, however, there remain faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.” (1 Cor. 13:8, 13) Because this evil world does not have God’s spirit, it prevents those of the world from solving their many differences. It must be observed, too, that, when personal problems arise between individual Christians, God’s holy spirit is being obstructed in one way or another and so is unable to operate fully to produce its fruitage, which is “love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control.” (Gal. 5:22, 23) However, when Christian love is shown and is successful in removing that obstacle, then once again there is opportunity for the full flow of God’s spirit upon the ones involved, and they are able to feel and produce in a greater measure its fruitage in their lives. So now there is a feeling of unity and harmony as was so well expressed by the psalmist: “Look! How good and how pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity! It is like the good oil upon the head, that is running down upon the beard, Aaron’s beard, that is running down to the collar of his garments.” (Ps. 133:1, 2) This quality of unity is absolutely essential to the spiritual well-being of Jehovah’s New World society today. By maintaining it we will make our work more productive, for we will be able to work with our whole mind, soul and strength. It will make our living together a truly pleasant and happifying experience, which in itself will be a source of strength to us. It will also more definitely identify us as a truly New World society operating under God’s holy spirit. However, it cannot be maintained miraculously, but only by the individuals in the New World society cultivating love for one another. Remember that love is a fruitage. It can and must be cultivated. Nowhere is this more evident than in this matter of settling difficulties in Christian love.

    15 In view of the foregoing we can fully appreciate the divine wisdom manifested through Jesus Christ in giving us this simple but effective method of settling problems that arise. “O the depth of God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How unsearchable his judgments are and past tracing out his ways are! For ‘who has come to know Jehovah’s mind, or who has become his counselor?’” (Rom. 11:33, 34) Foreseeing the possibility of personal difficulties even among his dedicated servants, Jehovah saw fit to provide us with an effective remedy. It is certainly the course of divine wisdom, then, to avail ourselves of this remedy when such difficulties do arise. This direct, personal approach to solving personal problems is the most rapid and effective, for much time and effort may be saved for yourself and others if these problems are settled promptly and alone. If this fails, we can seek the aid of a more mature brother in the congregation. Seldom, however, should it be necessary to take the third, more serious step outlined by Jesus in Matthew 18:17, that of taking the matter to the representative members of the congregation, calling in the wrongdoer before witnesses and proving beyond question his sin. The mature Christian will do his utmost to settle privately his differences with his brothers, doing so in Christian love.

    16 Now more than ever it is essential that this be done. We live in the “last days,” and “critical times hard to deal with” are upon us. As members of Jehovah’s New World society we need a united front now in order to face the more difficult times ahead. So we are deeply grateful to Jehovah for having provided us with a remedy for solving our personal differences and keeping Jehovah’s organization clean and at unity. These differences are few; but love will even lessen them. So let each one resolve now to continue “putting up with one another in love, earnestly endeavoring to observe the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace.”—Eph. 4:2, 3.

  • BroMac
    BroMac

    hmm, apologies for the length of the post ^ i'll go back and highlight some sections.

    Edit: i got fed up of highlighting, it was mostly the whole thing anyway

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    I think the above article outlines the good way of sorting out such problems, but as you say, so often the little Dubbies haven't got the courage or honesty to come to you first.

    I always think they want to get the Elders on their side before the whole thing comes under the microscope, and usually that means they have got a weak case.

    Any Elder worth his salt should say "Have you discussed this with the person concerned ? you know that Jesus says that is the first thing to do"

    Then of course, if the person then goes around to another Elder or someone else in the Congregation they are in a bad position.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    If someone tried to involve me in a bickering match I always referred them to Matt 18. It at least bought some time before the complainant re-presented the gripe!

  • BroMac
    BroMac

    If approached by an Elder that someone may have or have been stumbled by something that we have done, if you are unaware of any such instance, should the elder then let you know who it is, so that Matt 18 can be observed between the parties?

  • blondie
    blondie

    My husband would be approached by a jw about a problem they had with another in the congregation. He would always ask if they had talked to the person. They would just get a blank look and find an elder willing to skip that step. Even elders wives would send their husbands off to handle a problem they could have easily solved. No gonads. I do remember one sister who asked why the offended person had not approached them directly and volunteered to approach them and talk about it. The elder would not say who it was....she told him until that happened this elder and any other should not bother her with what was essentially gossip.

    1. Is it a DF matter...no

    2. Have you talked to the person (Matthew 18)...no

    3. Talk to them first and if they won't discuss it and they can't let it go, then come to an elder.

  • BroMac
    BroMac

    Blondie i think what you just described happens 99% of the time. thanks

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Yes, especially the "no gonads" bit, we had a lovely feisty sister who would always tackle head on any problem by seeing the person if she thought their conduct fell short, she too had upset some in her time, being outspoken, but she would publicly apologise to the person and give them a hug, she has my respect, she is a rarity within the JW's.

    One Elder remarked "She is more like an Elder than most Elders !"

    For most JW's it is , Matthew 18 ? Ignore that, I may not get what I want !

  • Disillusioned Lost-Lamb
    Disillusioned Lost-Lamb

    Yes there is a "system" in place but, in reality, there are only two scenarios when a problem arises.

    1. You are a low level R&Fer and/or you are not popular; you know from experience that the best thing is to keep your mouth shut.

    2. You have a higher rank and/or are popular; you cry to whomever will listen, especially the elders, until it goes YOUR WAY because you've got the pull to make it happen.

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