Was Judas set up?

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  • Koine
    Koine

    There Are No Old Testament Prophecies About Judas (OpenAirOutreach.com)


    Calvinists have taught that Judas was not saved but was “doomed to destruction to fulfill the Scriptures”. However it is worth noting that there was absolutely no prophecy about Judas at all which he had to fulfill. Not a single Old Testament prophecy ever mentioned Judas or Christ’s betrayal. Usually Acts 1:16 is referred to in an attempt to say otherwise, but a closer examination reveals that this is not the case. “Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.” (Acts 1:16). And what scripture needs to be fulfilled? “For it is written in the book of Psalms, let his habituation be desolate, and let no man dwell therin: and his brishoprick let another take” (Acts 1:20). There was no prophecy about Judas’ betrayal that needed to be fulfilled, the scripture that Peter said needed to be fulfilled was that somebody need to take Judas’ place.

    The scripture Peter referred to was not a prophecy about Judas, as the original passages speak in the plural but Peter modified them to the singular. Ps. 69:25 says let “their habituation” be desolate, but Peter changes it to “his habituation”. It says “let none dwell in their tents”. Peter was not quoting from a prophecy about Judas, since he had to change the passage to apply to Judas, and since he was actually merging two scriptures together. He references Ps. 69:25 about his habituation being desolate, and references Ps. 109:8 about another taking his office.

    What needs to be understood is that in Hebrew culture, they applied scriptures to applicable situations. The scriptures were indeed “fulfilled” in these situations, but not prophetically. They were fulfilled through parallelism. Scriptures were “fulfilled” by Judas through similarity or applicability. They are known as “analogous fulfillments”. Hebrew writers would take Old Testament passages, which were specifically about Old Testament events, and apply them to New Testament events because of similarity. This is done by the Hebrew writer Matthew who applied Hos. 11:1 which talked about God calling Israel out of Egypt and he applies it to Jesus Christ in Matt. 2:15. Jesus also applied Ps. 41:9, which was talking about David’s betrayal by his trusted friend and counselor Ahithephel, and applied it to his own situation with Judas in Jn. 13:18. It was not that these New Testament events were prophetic fulfillments of these Old Testament passages, but that these events did fulfill these passages through similarity or applicability.

    Jesus Christ said, “While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled” (Jn. 17:12). Jesus did not say which scripture it was that was fulfilled, but we know that since there were no prophetic passages regarding Judas in the Old Testament, the scriptural fulfillment Jesus referred to must have been that of fulfillment through similarity or applicability. Regarding the phrase “that it might be fulfilled”, Dr. S. T. Bloomfield said that “this Scriptural expression sometimes means that such a thing so happened that this or that passage would appear quite suitable or applicable to it” Dr. S. T. Bloomfield (The Foreknowledge of God and Cognate Themes in Theology and Philosophy by L. D. McCabe, published by BRCCD, p. 86). Moses Stuart said that “the New Testament writers often used Old Testament phraseology, which originally was applied in a very different connection. And they do this because such phraseology expresses, in an apt and forcible manner, the thought which they desired then to convey.” (The Foreknowledge of God and Cognate Themes in Theology and Philosophy by L. D. McCabe, published by BRCCD, p. 86). Dr. Edward Robinson said “The phrase is often used to express historical or typical parallelisms.” (The Foreknowledge of God and Cognate Themes in Theology and Philosophy by L. D. McCabe, published by BRCCD, p. 87). These passages are known as “ecbatic” as opposed to “telic”. L. D. McCabe said, “The telic use implies purpose, determination, prediction, and foreordination, while the ecbatic use implies only consequence, parallelism, application, or mere illustration.” L. D. McCabe (The Foreknowledge of God and Cognate Themes in Theology and Philosophy, published by BRCCD, p. 88)

    You can download the Mc. Cabe book from internet archive.

    Greetings, Koiné

  • tec
    tec

    Knowing what someone is going to do is not the same as making them do it. Sometimes you just know what a person will do because you know THEM. Most often we know what our children, and sometimes our spouses, will do in any given situation. God has a much broader picture than we have, so it stands to reason that his knowing is a lot deeper and clearer and longer.

    I do not believe that Christ and Judas were in cahoots. That would bring deceit into this, and Christ is Truth.

    Peace,

    Tammy

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