More Confessions of a former MOONIE - Part #2

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  • ros
    ros

    Part 2 - More confessions from Steve Hasson’s book, Combatting Cult Mind Control:

    Keep it in mind folks, the experience here was Moonies, not Jehovah’s Witnesses. That’s what makes it good to show JWs--they can’t justify calling it ‘apostate’.

    Some basic principles of Social Psychology and Group Dynamics:

    The net result of these studies has been the consistent demonstrataion of the remarkable power of behavior modification techniques, group conformity, and obedience to authority. These three factors are known in psychological terms as the "influence process." [p.58]

    * In totalistic cults, the ideology is internalized as "the truth," the only "map" or reality. The doctrine not only serves to filter incoming information but also regulates how the information can be thought about. . . The doctrine claims to answer all questions to all problems and situations. [p.61]

    * Another key aspect of thought control involves training members to block out any information which is critical of the group. [p.62]

    * If information transmitted to a cult member is perceived as an attack on either the leader, the doctrine, or the group, a hostile wall goes up. Members are trained to disbelieve any criticism. Critical words have been explained away in advance as "the lies about us that Satan puts in peoples' minds" . . . Paradoxically, criticism of the group confirms that the cult's view of the world is correct. The information presented does not register properly. [p.62]

    * Emotional control . . . terror of discovery and punishment by the leaders. [p.63
    [p.63]

    * Anyone who finds himself in a cult confession session should remember this warning: Anything you say can and will be used against you. This device can even extend to blackmail if you leave the cult. [p.63]

    * The most powerful technique for emotional control is phobia indoctrination . . . People are made to have a panic reaction at the thought of leaving, . . . [p.64]

    * When cult leaders tell the public "Members are free to leave any time they want; the door is open," they give the impression that members have free will and are simply choosing to stay. Actually, members may not have a real choice, because they have been indoctrinated to have a phobia of the outside world. Induced phobias eliminate the psychological possibility of a person choosing to leave the group merely because he is unhappy or wants to do something else. [p.65]

    * Information control also extends across all relationships. People are not allowed to talk to each other about anything critical of the leader, doctrine, or organizatiaon. Members must spy on each other and report improper activities or comments to leaders. [p.65]

    * Most importantly, people are told to avoid contact with ex-members or critics. Those who could provide the most information are the ones to be especially shunned. [p.65]

    * Cult members naturally feel they know more about what's going on in their group than outsiders do, but in counseling ex-members I find that they often know the least. [p.65]

    * Destructive organizations also control information by having many levels of "truth." Cult ideologies have "outsider" doctrines and "insider" doctrines. The outsider material is relatively bland stuff for the general public or fresh converts. The inner doctrines are unveiled only gradually as a person gets in deeper. [p.66]

    * The Doctrine Is Reality - There is no room in a mind control environment for regarding the group's beliefs as mere theory, or as a way to interpret reality or to seek reality. The doctrine is reality. [p.78]

    * Since mind control depends on creating a new identity within the individual, cult doctrine always requires that a person distrust his own self. The doctrine becomes the "master program" for all thoughts, feelings, and actions. Since it is the TRUTH, perfect and absolute, any flaw in it is viewed as only a reflection of the believer's own imperfection. He is taught that he must follow the prescribed formula even if he doesn't really understand it. At the same time he is told that he should try to work harder and have more faith so he will come to understand the truth more clearly. [p.79]

    * The doctrine allows no outside group to be recognized as valid (good, godly, real) because that would threaten the cult's monopoly on truth. There is also no room for interpretation or deviation. If the doctrine doesn't provide an answer directly, then the member must ask a leader. If the leader doesn't have an answer, he can always brush off the question as unimportant or irrelevant. [p.79]

    * Some groups cultivate a psychic paranoia, telling members that spirit beings are constantly observing them, even taking possession of them whenever they feel or think in non-cult ways. [p.79]

    * Elitist Mentality - Members are made to feel part of an elite corps of mankind. This feeling of being special, of participating in the most important acts in human history with a vanguard of committed believers, is strong emotional glue to keep people sacrificing and working hard. [p.80]

    * Ironically, members of cults look down on anyone involved in any other cult groups. They are very quick to acknowledge that "Those people are in a cult" or "They are the ones who are brainwashed." They are unable to step out of their own situations and look at themselves objectively. [p.80]

    * This feeling of elitism and destiny, however, carries a heavy burden of responsibility. Members are told that if they do not fully perform their duties they are failing all of mankind. [p.80]

    * Group Will over Individual Will - In all destructive cults the self must submit to the group. . . . In any group that qualifies as a destructive cult, think of oneself or for oneself is wrong. The group comes first. Absolute obedience to superiors is one of the most universal themes in cults. Individuality is bad. Conformity is good. [p.80]

    * Happiness through Good Performance - One of the most attractive qualities of cult life is the sense of community that it fosters. The love seems to be unconditional and unlimited at first, and new members are swept away by a honeymoon of praise and attention. But after a few months, as the person becomes more enmeshed, the flattery and attention are turned away toward newer recruits. The cult member learns that love is not unconditional but depends on good performance. [p.80]

    * Indeed, when cult members go through hardship (fundraising in freezing cold or broiling heat) or persecution (being arrested for violations of law or harassed by outsiders), they do feel a depth of camaraderie and shared martyrdom that is exceptional. But because the only real allegiance is to the leader, a closer look shows that such ties are actually shallow and sometimes just private fantasy. [p.82]

    * Problems are always the fault of the member, and are due to his weak faith, his lack of understanding, "bad ancestors," evil spirits, and so forth. He perpetually feels guilty for not meeting standards. . . . In every destructive cult I have encountered, fear is a major motivator. [p.82]

    * Many groups teach that the apocalypse is just around the corner. Some say they are preventing the apocalypse; others merely believe that they will survive it. . . . To a cult member, the future is a time when you will be rewarded because the great change has finally come. [p.83]

    * Many groups have timetables for the apocalypse, which tends to be two to five years away--far enough not to be discredited any time soon, near enough to carry emotional punch. These predictions have a way of fading into the background as the big date approaches. In other groups, the timetable is believed right until it actually fails to come true.[p.83]

    * Usually the leader just issues a new timetable that moves the big event up a few years. After he does this a few times, a few long-term members may become cynical. Of course, by then there is a whole set of new members unaware that the leader has been shifting the timetable. [p.83]

    * In a destructive cult, there is never a legitimate reason for leaving. . . . Members are thoroughly indoctrinated with the belief that if they ever do leave, terrible consequences will befall them, their family, and/or mankind. [p.84]

    * Although cult members will often say "Show me a way that is better than mine and I will quit," they are not allowed the time or mental tools to prove that statement to themselves. They are locked in a psychological prison. [p.84]

    * Leaders were not "in it for the money" but . . . were, in my opinion, addicted to personal power. Many destructive Bible cults have leaders who are not conspicuous consumers and who appear to hold God and the Bible above them in authority; yet, interpretation of the Bible and God's will is used to manipulate and control people. [p.99]

    * Does the group's doctrine claim publicly to be one thing when it is in fact otherwise? [p.99]

    * Deception includes outright lying, leaving out important information, or distorting information . . . Most recruiters from destructive cults will deny that they are trying to recruit anyone at all. [p.100]

    * In destructive cults, large amounts of time are spent in group activities, with a minimum of time allowed for privacy or for friends and family. Little time is available for reading anything other than cult material or for learning anything other than cult practices. Of course, members go out of their way to convince outsiders that they are living a "normal" life. Yet, if you get cult members into a long discussion of current events, or art, or history, it becomes evident that most are out of touch. [p.102]

    * One of the most obvious signs of a person in a mind control group is a lack of independent decision making abilities. Even though cult members try to convince outsiders that they are autonomous, once you probe beyond the surface it becomes obvious that they cannot make important decisions without first asking permission from superiors. [p.102-103]

    * The final criterion for judging a group is the members' freedom to leave. To put it simply, members of destructive cults are psychological prisoners. As I have explained, destructive cults plant phobias into members' minds so that they fear ever leaving the group. [p.104]

    * One question I frequently hear is whether all destructive cults are equally dangersous. The answer is simple, "no," as any common-sense look at cults would prove. Not every group is as destructive, for example, as the "People's Temple, or as extreme as the terrorist cults of the Middle East. Nor is every group as deceptive, as demanding, and as dangerous to an individual, his family, or society as is the Moon organization. . . . Another question I occasionally encounter is whether destructive cults change over time in significant ways. The answer is yes. Groups that use mind control may start off with extremely good intentions but end up manipulating their members and deceiving the public. [p.105]

    * The clincher question is whether or not the person has taken the time to talk with former members and read critical literature in order to make up his own mind. A person under mind control might say that he would be willing to do this. However, I have often seen family members call the member's bluff, and almost always the cult member doesn't follow through. If he does, he is well on his way out of the group. [p.110]

    * Rational discussions are simply not effective with someone who has been indoctrinated with mind control [p.140]

    * Don't send unsolicited critical articles, . . . Such information actually does more harm than good. [p.146]

    * Every person in a cult has been programmed to stop all "negative" thoughts about the leader, the doctrine, or the organization, and has also been indoctrinated to believe that this group is superior to all other groups and different from all other groups. [p.165]

    * "Kick-Outs - I've encountered quite a few people who were kicked out of their group, ostensibly because they were bucking authority and asking too many questions. . . . The people who have been kicked out of a destructive cult are always in the worst shape of all former cult members. They feel rejection not only from the group members but, in the case of religious cults, from God Himself. . . . These people, phobic toward the world outside their cults, have been cast into what they view as utter darkness. For many "kick-outs," suicide seems a real alternative to their suffering. [p.170]

    * It is essential that former members acknowledge and work through their pain, and go through the necessary grieving period. What seems to help the most is to enable people to realize that positive things did come out of their involvement, and to show them how they can now be much stronger because of the experience. [p.173]

    * Mystical manipulation can take on a special quality . . . because the leaders become mediators for God. The God-centered principles can be forcibly and claimed exclusively, so that the cult and its beliefs become the only true path to salvation. [p.202]

  • mikepence
    mikepence

    Here is the same material, but with the loaded term 'cult' replaced with the term 'RELIGIOUS GROUP'. Interesting how it still holds true, eh?

    Some basic principles of Social Psychology and Group Dynamics:

    The net result of these studies has been the consistent demonstrataion of the remarkable power of behavior modification techniques, group conformity, and obedience to authority. These three factors are known in psychological terms as the "influence process." [p.58]

    * In totalistic RELIGIOUS GROUPs, the ideology is internalized as "the truth," the only "map" or reality. The doctrine not only serves to filter incoming information but also regulates how the information can be thought about. . . The doctrine claims to answer all questions to all problems and situations. [p.61]

    * Another key aspect of thought control involves training members to block out any information which is critical of the group. [p.62]

    * If information transmitted to a RELIGIOUS GROUP member is perceived as an attack on either the leader, the doctrine, or the group, a hostile wall goes up. Members are trained to disbelieve any criticism. Critical words have been explained away in advance as "the lies about us that Satan puts in peoples' minds" . . . Paradoxically, criticism of the group confirms that the RELIGIOUS GROUP's view of the world is correct. The information presented does not register properly. [p.62]

    * Emotional control . . . terror of discovery and punishment by the leaders. [p.63
    [p.63]

    * Anyone who finds himself in a RELIGIOUS GROUP confession session should remember this warning: Anything you say can and will be used against you. This device can even extend to blackmail if you leave the RELIGIOUS GROUP. [p.63]

    * The most powerful technique for emotional control is phobia indoctrination . . . People are made to have a panic reaction at the thought of leaving, . . . [p.64]

    * When RELIGIOUS GROUP leaders tell the public "Members are free to leave any time they want; the door is open," they give the impression that members have free will and are simply choosing to stay. Actually, members may not have a real choice, because they have been indoctrinated to have a phobia of the outside world. Induced phobias eliminate the psychological possibility of a person choosing to leave the group merely because he is unhappy or wants to do something else. [p.65]

    * Information control also extends across all relationships. People are not allowed to talk to each other about anything critical of the leader, doctrine, or organizatiaon. Members must spy on each other and report improper activities or comments to leaders. [p.65]

    * Most importantly, people are told to avoid contact with ex-members or critics. Those who could provide the most information are the ones to be especially shunned. [p.65]

    * RELIGIOUS GROUP members naturally feel they know more about what's going on in their group than outsiders do, but in counseling ex-members I find that they often know the least. [p.65]

    * Destructive organizations also control information by having many levels of "truth." RELIGIOUS GROUP ideologies have "outsider" doctrines and "insider" doctrines. The outsider material is relatively bland stuff for the general public or fresh converts. The inner doctrines are unveiled only gradually as a person gets in deeper. [p.66]

    * The Doctrine Is Reality - There is no room in a mind control environment for regarding the group's beliefs as mere theory, or as a way to interpret reality or to seek reality. The doctrine is reality. [p.78]

    * Since mind control depends on creating a new identity within the individual, RELIGIOUS GROUP doctrine always requires that a person distrust his own self. The doctrine becomes the "master program" for all thoughts, feelings, and actions. Since it is the TRUTH, perfect and absolute, any flaw in it is viewed as only a reflection of the believer's own imperfection. He is taught that he must follow the prescribed formula even if he doesn't really understand it. At the same time he is told that he should try to work harder and have more faith so he will come to understand the truth more clearly. [p.79]

    * The doctrine allows no outside group to be recognized as valid (good, godly, real) because that would threaten the RELIGIOUS GROUP's monopoly on truth. There is also no room for interpretation or deviation. If the doctrine doesn't provide an answer directly, then the member must ask a leader. If the leader doesn't have an answer, he can always brush off the question as unimportant or irrelevant. [p.79]

    * Some groups RELIGIOUS GROUPivate a psychic paranoia, telling members that spirit beings are constantly observing them, even taking possession of them whenever they feel or think in non-RELIGIOUS GROUP ways. [p.79]

    * Elitist Mentality - Members are made to feel part of an elite corps of mankind. This feeling of being special, of participating in the most important acts in human history with a vanguard of committed believers, is strong emotional glue to keep people sacrificing and working hard. [p.80]

    * Ironically, members of RELIGIOUS GROUPs look down on anyone involved in any other RELIGIOUS GROUP groups. They are very quick to acknowledge that "Those people are in a RELIGIOUS GROUP" or "They are the ones who are brainwashed." They are unable to step out of their own situations and look at themselves objectively. [p.80]

    * This feeling of elitism and destiny, however, carries a heavy burden of responsibility. Members are told that if they do not fully perform their duties they are failing all of mankind. [p.80]

    * Group Will over Individual Will - In all destructive RELIGIOUS GROUPs the self must submit to the group. . . . In any group that qualifies as a destructive RELIGIOUS GROUP, think of oneself or for oneself is wrong. The group comes first. Absolute obedience to superiors is one of the most universal themes in RELIGIOUS GROUPs. Individuality is bad. Conformity is good. [p.80]

    * Happiness through Good Performance - One of the most attractive qualities of RELIGIOUS GROUP life is the sense of community that it fosters. The love seems to be unconditional and unlimited at first, and new members are swept away by a honeymoon of praise and attention. But after a few months, as the person becomes more enmeshed, the flattery and attention are turned away toward newer recruits. The RELIGIOUS GROUP member learns that love is not unconditional but depends on good performance. [p.80]

    * Indeed, when RELIGIOUS GROUP members go through hardship (fundraising in freezing cold or broiling heat) or persecution (being arrested for violations of law or harassed by outsiders), they do feel a depth of camaraderie and shared martyrdom that is exceptional. But because the only real allegiance is to the leader, a closer look shows that such ties are actually shallow and sometimes just private fantasy. [p.82]

    * Problems are always the fault of the member, and are due to his weak faith, his lack of understanding, "bad ancestors," evil spirits, and so forth. He perpetually feels guilty for not meeting standards. . . . In every destructive RELIGIOUS GROUP I have encountered, fear is a major motivator. [p.82]

    * Many groups teach that the apocalypse is just around the corner. Some say they are preventing the apocalypse; others merely believe that they will survive it. . . . To a RELIGIOUS GROUP member, the future is a time when you will be rewarded because the great change has finally come. [p.83]

    * Many groups have timetables for the apocalypse, which tends to be two to five years away--far enough not to be discredited any time soon, near enough to carry emotional punch. These predictions have a way of fading into the background as the big date approaches. In other groups, the timetable is believed right until it actually fails to come true.[p.83]

    * Usually the leader just issues a new timetable that moves the big event up a few years. After he does this a few times, a few long-term members may become cynical. Of course, by then there is a whole set of new members unaware that the leader has been shifting the timetable. [p.83]

    * In a destructive RELIGIOUS GROUP, there is never a legitimate reason for leaving. . . . Members are thoroughly indoctrinated with the belief that if they ever do leave, terrible consequences will befall them, their family, and/or mankind. [p.84]

    * Although RELIGIOUS GROUP members will often say "Show me a way that is better than mine and I will quit," they are not allowed the time or mental tools to prove that statement to themselves. They are locked in a psychological prison. [p.84]

    * Leaders were not "in it for the money" but . . . were, in my opinion, addicted to personal power. Many destructive Bible RELIGIOUS GROUPs have leaders who are not conspicuous consumers and who appear to hold God and the Bible above them in authority; yet, interpretation of the Bible and God's will is used to manipulate and control people. [p.99]

    * Does the group's doctrine claim publicly to be one thing when it is in fact otherwise? [p.99]

    * Deception includes outright lying, leaving out important information, or distorting information . . . Most recruiters from destructive RELIGIOUS GROUPs will deny that they are trying to recruit anyone at all. [p.100]

    * In destructive RELIGIOUS GROUPs, large amounts of time are spent in group activities, with a minimum of time allowed for privacy or for friends and family. Little time is available for reading anything other than RELIGIOUS GROUP material or for learning anything other than RELIGIOUS GROUP practices. Of course, members go out of their way to convince outsiders that they are living a "normal" life. Yet, if you get RELIGIOUS GROUP members into a long discussion of current events, or art, or history, it becomes evident that most are out of touch. [p.102]

    * One of the most obvious signs of a person in a mind control group is a lack of independent decision making abilities. Even though RELIGIOUS GROUP members try to convince outsiders that they are autonomous, once you probe beyond the surface it becomes obvious that they cannot make important decisions without first asking permission from superiors. [p.102-103]

    * The final criterion for judging a group is the members' freedom to leave. To put it simply, members of destructive RELIGIOUS GROUPs are psychological prisoners. As I have explained, destructive RELIGIOUS GROUPs plant phobias into members' minds so that they fear ever leaving the group. [p.104]

    * One question I frequently hear is whether all destructive RELIGIOUS GROUPs are equally dangersous. The answer is simple, "no," as any common-sense look at RELIGIOUS GROUPs would prove. Not every group is as destructive, for example, as the "People's Temple, or as extreme as the terrorist RELIGIOUS GROUPs of the Middle East. Nor is every group as deceptive, as demanding, and as dangerous to an individual, his family, or society as is the Moon organization. . . . Another question I occasionally encounter is whether destructive RELIGIOUS GROUPs change over time in significant ways. The answer is yes. Groups that use mind control may start off with extremely good intentions but end up manipulating their members and deceiving the public. [p.105]

    * The clincher question is whether or not the person has taken the time to talk with former members and read critical literature in order to make up his own mind. A person under mind control might say that he would be willing to do this. However, I have often seen family members call the member's bluff, and almost always the RELIGIOUS GROUP member doesn't follow through. If he does, he is well on his way out of the group. [p.110]

    * Rational discussions are simply not effective with someone who has been indoctrinated with mind control [p.140]

    * Don't send unsolicited critical articles, . . . Such information actually does more harm than good. [p.146]

    * Every person in a RELIGIOUS GROUP has been programmed to stop all "negative" thoughts about the leader, the doctrine, or the organization, and has also been indoctrinated to believe that this group is superior to all other groups and different from all other groups. [p.165]

    * "Kick-Outs - I've encountered quite a few people who were kicked out of their group, ostensibly because they were bucking authority and asking too many questions. . . . The people who have been kicked out of a destructive RELIGIOUS GROUP are always in the worst shape of all former RELIGIOUS GROUP members. They feel rejection not only from the group members but, in the case of religious RELIGIOUS GROUPs, from God Himself. . . . These people, phobic toward the world outside their RELIGIOUS GROUPs, have been cast into what they view as utter darkness. For many "kick-outs," suicide seems a real alternative to their suffering. [p.170]

    * It is essential that former members acknowledge and work through their pain, and go through the necessary grieving period. What seems to help the most is to enable people to realize that positive things did come out of their involvement, and to show them how they can now be much stronger because of the experience. [p.173]

    * Mystical manipulation can take on a special quality . . . because the leaders become mediators for God. The God-centered principles can be forcibly and claimed exclusively, so that the RELIGIOUS GROUP and its beliefs become the only true path to salvation. [p.202]

  • singsongboi
    singsongboi

    really great stuff -- thanx for posting it!!

  • Shimmer
    Shimmer

    ros,

    I'm sitting here with my mouth hanging open. Even though I've come to the realization that this religion is "not for me". I've always thought that it couldn't be a cult, mainly because of their arguments against that fact. But after reading your post, I have completely changed my mind. Every definition that you quoted fits to a tee the JW's. I'm totally in shock. I can't wait to share this with my hubby. He's inactive but still thinks it's the truth, bless his heart.

    Thank you for enlightening me.

    Shimmer

    A sobering thought: what if, right at this very moment, I am living up to my full potential?------------Jane Wagner

  • proplog2
    proplog2

    Shimmer:

    You have come under Ros' influence. You are now one her cult.

    If you keep your mouth open to long you WILL appear dumb.

  • ros
    ros

    Dear prop:

    You're forgetting again--it's talking about "Moonies". Besides, I'm just quoting.

    Besides, any atheist who lives the JW life shouldn't be calling anybody dumb. That's hard enough even to do even for those who think it's the will of God! Some can't even manage it.

    Ros
    "A religion that teaches lies cannot be true"--The Watchtower, 12/1/91 pg. 7

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    [Singing] Meeeeemories......

    Religion Stops a Thinking Mind!
    <x ><

  • waiting
    waiting

    Jehovah's Christian Witnesses firmly believe this:

    * In a destructive cult, there is never a legitimate reason for leaving. . . . Members are thoroughly indoctrinated with the belief that if they ever do leave, terrible consequences will befall them, their family, and/or mankind.

    If one of Jehovah's Witnesses leaves the Truth, and if Armageddon comes before they return to Jehovah (same as the Truth), then they will die at Armageddon. Which actually means that Jehovah will kill them and they will suffer the Second Death - which is eternal Death with no hope for a resurrection.

    My 81 year old mother-in-law lives with this fear for her son (my husband). She knows this will happen to him if he doesn't "come to the meetings." There is no reasoning with her - as she knows.

    He just hugs her, as he knows there's nothing he can say which will change her mind.

    Thanks again, Ros.

    waiting

  • proplog2
    proplog2

    Ros:

    Of course its hard for you to understand because you don't have the creative temperament that can tolerate ambiguities at a high level of thinking.

    You are a good follower. You belong in a good old conventional church.

  • ros
    ros

    Interesting analysis.
    So why did my aptitude tests (which was a three-day clinical test) rank highest (VERY high) in "creativity and abstract reasoning"?

    Ever had your thinking professionally analyzed? ;-)

    Ros
    "A religion that teaches lies cannot be true"--The Watchtower, 12/1/91 pg. 7

    Edited once to correct terminiology.

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