Is this or is it not CANNY DUPLICITY?? "prophets"??

by Terry 16 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Terra Incognita
    Terra Incognita

    Terry:"...or, how about a tattoo? One statement per butt cheek!"

    No one wants to visualize the GB's buttcheeks.

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  • Anony Mous
    Anony Mous

    The hysteria about Jehovah's Witnesses and false prophecy is directly related to Armageddon. Opposers of Jehovah's Witnesses believe Armageddon is a false prophecy. With this in mind, what you're really doing is condemning the holy prophets of old, not Jehovah's Witnesses

    Hi DJEggNogg. Armageddon is not mentioned in the Bible except for Revelation. And Revelation is a highly symbolic book. Most Christians do not believe that Armageddon is to be taken as a literal day of condemnation where the world will be destroyed and only a few will remain. The belief in Armageddon according to the JW's is false - how can a God of love destroy billions of people, some who never had the opportunity to learn about him and only save a few million that have actually taught many several versions of the 'Truth' all the while claiming to be 'guided by Holy Spirit'?

    JW's have prophesied in the proper sense of the word that the end would come ever since the late 1800's, 1914, 1922, 1975, within the generation (which is already a stretch of the actual meaning of the word) of 1914, within 2 generations of 1914 etc. etc.

  • Terry

    It never seems to appeal to christian commentators that John in the book of Revelation might simply have been speaking about his

    OWN DAY without any prophetic implication for our day.

    Why is that?

    It clearly states WHEN those "visions" were supposed to take place: shortly, quickly, soon.

    Revelation 1:1 (Young's Literal Translation)

    Revelation 1

    1 A revelation of Jesus Christ, that God gave to him, to shew to his servants what things it behoveth to come to pass quickly; and he did signify [it], having sent through his messenger to his servant John,

    Revelation 1:1 (New International Version 1984, ©1984)

    Revelation 1

    1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,

    Revelation 1:1 (King James Version)

    Revelation 1

    1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass ; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

  • Terry

    William Miller of the Seventh-day Adventist Church claimed a prophetic dream from God bestowed him with the power of prophecy in the same manner recorded in Daniel....

    Really? I'm unaware of that. May I ask your source on that?

  • Maze
    Really? I'm unaware of that. May I ask your source on that?

    William Miller’s Prophetic Dream: The Scattering and Gathering of Adventism (pdf)

    The interpretation of William Miller's dream as quoted in the early writings of Ellen G. White:

    God sent His angel to move upon the heart of a farmer who had not believed the Bible, to lead him to search the prophecies. Angels of God repeatedly visited that chosen one, to guide his mind and open to his understanding prophecies which had ever been dark to God’s people. The commencement of the chain of truth was given to him, and he was led on to search for link after link, until he looked with wonder and admiration upon the Word of God. He saw there a perfect chain of truth. That Word which he had regarded as uninspired now opened before his vision in its beauty and glory. ... He regarded the sacred Word of God with joy and with the deepest respect and awe. The Great Controversy, Page 229

  • Terry

    Ohhhhhhhh, that is Ellen G. White's idea which she claimed to have received from God in a vision.

    I can't buy that as factual.

    The idea that the Adventists were so desperate that they had to turn from Scriptural cherry picking and quote-mining to pure MYSTICAL bullshit

    demonstrates the dire straits they were in.

    Incidentally, Maria Russell borrowed Ellen White's mystical vision thingy and dressed it up as the doctrine of the anointed specially selected FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE! She meant to apply it to herself and her husband!

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