Evidence for an Egyptian Presence In Early PalestineEgyptian Artifacts Salvaged from Robbed Tomb in Israel

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  • fulltimestudent

    I've posted evidence elsewhere indicating that ancient Israel was at times part of the Egyptian empire. That means that the Exodus documents incorporated into the Old Testament, is a mythical story. The Israelites did NOT leave Egypt. Egypt was already in Israel (or, parts thereof).

    Here's some indications of an Egyptian presence:

    The collection of artifacts found in the cave includes faience amulets depicting Egyptian gods and scarab seals depicting Egyptian pharaohs.
    Credit: Clara Amit, courtesy of the Israel Antiquities Authority

  • fulltimestudent

    From Livescience this overview:

    Link: http://www.livescience.com/50335-egyptian-artifacts-salvaged-from-robbed-tomb.html

    Egyptian Artifacts Salvaged from Robbed Tomb in Israel

    by Megan Gannon, News Editor | April 01, 2015 09:47am ET

    In an underground cave in Israel, archaeologists have unearthed 3,000-year-old Egyptian artifacts that had been spared by tomb robbers.

    Inspectors with the Israel Antiquities Authority's (IAA) Unit for the Prevention of Antiquities Robbery say they found pickaxes and other signs of looting in a cave near Kibbutz Lahav in southern Israel.

    Upon further investigation, the excavators discovered a hoard of ancient artifacts. IAA officials say they don't yet know how the cave was used or why these objects were placed there, but they found several intact ceramic pots; jewelry made of bronze, shells and faience; oil lamps; small amulets; alabaster jars; cosmetic vessels; and Egyptian scarab seals that date back to the 15th and 14th centuries B.C.

    "During this period, Canaan was ruled by Egypt," Daphna Ben-Tor, curator of Egyptian archaeology at the Israel Museum, explained in a statement from the IAA.

    "The names of kings appeared on some of the seals," Ben-Tor added. "Among other things, we can identify a sphinx lying opposite the name of the pharaoh Thutmose, who reigned from about 1504-1450 B.C. Another scarab seal bears the name of Amenhotep, who reigned from about 1386-1349 B.C. Still another scarab depicts Ptah, the principal god of the city of Memphis."

    The announcement was timed just beforePassover, the Jewish holiday celebrating the biblical story of the Israelites leaving slavery in Egypt. There's no solid archaeological evidence to back the Exodus as a historical event, and these newfound artifacts don't offer new insights on that front. But from these findings, historians could potentially "learn about the great influence of the Egyptian administration and culture on the inhabitants of the Land of Israel during the Late Bronze and Iron Age periods," Eitan Klein, an archaeologist with the IAA, told Live Science.

  • fulltimestudent

    Egyptian ring

    A ring unearthed during the excavation is inlaid with a seal showing an Egyptian warrior holding a shield and sword.
    Credit: Unit for the Prevention of Antiquities Robbery of the Israel Antiquities Authority

  • fulltimestudent

    Another item:

    Egyptians Brewed Beer in Tel Aviv 5,000 Years Ago
    by Megan Gannon, News Editor | March 30, 2015 11:38am ET
    Tel Aviv's reputation as a party city for expats might have started 5,000 years ago.
    During the Bronze Age, Egyptians were making beer in what is today downtown Tel Aviv, new archaeological evidence suggests.
    When archaeologists were conducting salvage excavations ahead of construction on new office buildings along Hamasger Street, they found 17 ancient pits that were used to store produce, according to an announcement from the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA).
    These pits held Egyptian-style pottery that dated back to the Early Bronze Age I, a period that lasted from 3500 B.C. to 3000 B.C. [In Photos: Early Bronze Age Chariot Burial]
    "On the basis of previously conducted excavations in the region, we knew there is an Early Bronze Age site here, but this excavation is the first evidence we have of an Egyptian occupation in the center of Tel Aviv at that time," Diego Barkan, an archaeologist who was conducting the excavation on behalf of the IAA, said in the statement.
    Barkan and his colleagues found hundreds of pottery fragments, including broken pieces of large ceramic basins traditionally used to prepare beer — a staple of the Egyptian diet.
    The clay that was used to create these basins had been mixed with straw or other organic materials as strengthening agents. This method wasn't used in the local pottery industry in Israel, but straw-tempered vessels have been found before at other Egyptian sites — notably, the Egyptian administrative building that was excavated at En Besor in southern Israel, Barkan explained.
    "This is also the northernmost evidence we have of an Egyptian presence in the Early Bronze Age I," Barkan said. "Until now, we were only aware of an Egyptian presence in the northern Negev and southern coastal plain, whereby the northernmost point of Egyptian occupation occurred in Azor. Now we know that they also appreciated what the Tel Aviv region had to offer and that they too knew how to enjoy a glass of beer, just as Tel Avivians do today."
    The archaeologists report that they also found 5,000-year-old bones from wild boar, sheep and goat at the site, as well as a bronze dagger and stone tools dating back 6,000 years, during the Chalcolithic period.
  • hoser
    You have it all wrong. The Egyptians gave those treasures to the Israelites when they left Egypt.
  • fulltimestudent

    The Egyptian Presence in the Negev desert area is discussed in this University of California-San Diego web-site: http://levlab.ucsd.edu/publications/nahaltillah/


    Recent excavations in Israelís northern Negev desert, carried out under the auspices of the new Nahal Tillah Regional Archaeology Project, are beginning to shed new light on the character of late Protodynastic/Early Dynastic Egyptian/Canaanite interaction, ca. 3300 - 3000 BC. Of key importance are new data concerning the role of one of the earliest historically known Egyptian kings - Narmer, in expansion of the Nile Valley civilization. One of the central research problems which the Nahal Tillah project focuses on is the nature of core - periphery relations and the impact of core civilizations on their less socially complex neighbors. Specifically, how do newly emergent ìpristineî civilizations impact and influence culture change in their less socially developed peripheries? These kinds of questions are linked to broader issues of culture evolution, especially the rise of secondary states in the ancient Near East.
    In July of 1994, a wealth of new data was recovered in excavations in the Nahal Tillah area near Kibbutz Lahav which have bearing on this problem. In soundings on the Halif Terrace at the Silo site (Figure 1), large numbers of imported Protodynastic/Early Dynastic Egyptian pottery vessels, architecture, a clay seal impression, and a new incised sherd bearing the serekh symbol of King Narmer were found. Narmer, known to archaeologists from the exquisite large stone palette which contains his name symbolized as a catfish, was once thought to have been responsible for the first unification of upper and lower Egypt sometime between 3050 - 3000 BCE. This article outlines the archaeological and historical context of the new Narmer serekh and examines the importance of this early epigraphic artifact for southeastern Mediterranean archaeology.
  • Crazyguy

    Don't forget the armana letters, probably spelled it wrong, but these letter were from Egyptian governors in the area of Israel writing to the Pharoah proving they the Egyptians ruled the area.

  • Crazyguy
    Let's also not forget historical writings of the Egyptian kings moving through the area of what's now none as Israel to invade areas beyond the river Ephrates and moving up to fight against the Hitittes, If this area was ruled by a Israelite king thiswouldn't have happened d
  • Half banana
    Half banana
    Thanks for information Fulltime, the evidence goes toward confirming that the Hebrew writings are the nationalistic bluster and imaginings of a small tribe conscious of their poverty and political impotence.
  • Half banana
    Half banana

    Hoser, they never left Egypt because they never went there. If the Bible were true, it would be like saying that that Mexico went to the USA. Because Egypt was infinitely more powerful than Judah, individuals were continuously attracted there for work and trading.

    The story of the Exodus from Egypt was not a historical reality but a metaphor of their collective desire to be freed from the influence of their Egyptian overlords.

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