Why was the type/antitype understanding of the Olive Tree thrown out? (May 15, 2011 Watchtower)

by pirata 12 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • rocketman
    rocketman

    illuminator wrote: "Of course this gem of new light starts with the word "EVIDENTLY". "

    Yes, there they go with that word again.

    As for pirata's theory, it makes sense to me.

  • Ding
    Ding
    Of course this gem of new light starts with the word "EVIDENTLY".

    If it is EVIDENT now, why wasn't it EVIDENT to the "faithful and discreet slave" (i.e. Fred Franz) back in 1983?

  • Larsinger58
    Larsinger58

    The GB was "disfellowshipped" on November 10, 1992 and told then they would be cast into spiritual darkness. They are now reeling in agony in regards to their doctrines. This is the situation where Lazarus (J.C.) is in a favored position for Bible understanding, and the Rich Man (the GB) is in torment.

    Again, Paul was reminding the gentiles not to get too haughty because the root that provided the nourishment was made up of natural Jews. The root of the tree is not Jehovah. Isa 6:13 shows that root makes up 1/10th of the tree and thus the 144,000 are, indeed, literally natural Jews from the 12 tribes of Israel, which means 90% of the members are gentiles (1,296,000).

    The only way for the 12 tribes of Israel to produce 12,000 each during our time is the 12 tribes of Israel must exist. This is made possible by individuals from the 12 tribes who had "papers", that is, genealology records confirming their ancestry to one of the 12 tribes. They were chosen, among others, not to die at all but to survive down to our day. Paul and John were two also chosen not to die. But just as an original 12 individual men became nations, so these individuals would reconstitute the 12 tribes out of which the 12,000 elect would be chosen from each tribe.

    That is what has actually happened. But that is hard to believe unless you are part of the elect. This part of the kingdom plan is quite secretive.

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