Condemned By Their Own Words

by worf 5 Replies latest jw friends

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  worf

  I posted this on the old H2o board and I am posting it here especially for those who are still inside the WTS and for those lurking here who may now be questioning the WTS.

  This taken from the Watchtower Bound Volume of 1962 pages 112-114.
  This article gives the Bible account of 1 Kings 13:1-28 in paragraphs 10-14. I will not quote the entire passage here because of its length but I suggest you read it when you have the chance.

  The information presented in this article definitely contains the usual WTS contradictions but this article is proof that any JW is not obligated to obey anything said by the WTS whether the so-called direction comes from an elder, ministerial servant, CO, DO, City Overseer, or GB member.

  Here are some of the exact words from this watchtower article under the subheading "Avoiding Presumptuous Acts" :"What does the Christian learn from this? To be constant in faultless walking in JEHOVAH'S eye's, always seek HIS direction, especially at perplexing moments in life. Never push ahead presumptuously either on our own ideas or upon the urgings of someone else, even though that person may occupy a responsible position in God's organization. By seeking JEHOVAH'S direction, we avoid being misled by imposters or by those who may mean well but who are acting upon their own understanding."

  When you read this article you will of course find the usual promoting of the organization. But the key phrase above is" NEVER PUSH AHEAD ON THE URGINGS OF SOMEONE ELSE, EVEN THOUGH THAT PERSON MAY OCCUPY A RESPONSIBLE POSITION".WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. This article specifically says to look to Jehovah and obey HIM, not any man.

  So from the WTS own writings, NO ONE, is obligated to obey any elder, cicuit overseer, district overseer, city overseer, or governing body member if they do not agree with what they have told them.

  This also means that the WTS constantly goes against its own writings when they punish(by reproof, disfellowshippping, or removal from positions) those who don't listen to others in so-called responsible positions in the organization, and when they Disfellowship and label as apostates those who question their teachings and refuse to follow them when these ones find that the teachings are not in harmony with the Bible.
  The entire article mentioned above is very interesting.
  It is another example of the WTS being condemned by their own writings.

  Worf (Warrior Class)
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  freeborg

  Interesting point is all these men in positions hide behind the ORGANISATION, and if the org says it god has spoken. The rank and file will forgive anyone and anything for the sake of the ORGANISATION.
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  Adonai438

  Also kinda puts their foot in their own mouth so-to-speak considering how many times the have prophesied the end of the world and we're still here
  That messes with the whole brighter/changing light doctrine to,
  surely if you always look to God and follow him in everything- God would know the truth about himself and there would be no constant changing doctrine. Just shows who they are Not truly following.
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  Frenchy

  By the time this information is 'filtered' by the average JW, it comes to mean this: "God's spirit directed organization is always right so be careful if some PERSON presumptuously pushes ahead of it. Meanwhile whatever it is that you hear from us, do it without question."
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  moman

  worf, good try, but sadly this does not play with the WT.
  Remember, the Watchtower speaks for God & to argue with them is to disobey Jehovah, unless they got a bad connection & didn't hear correctly, then its not their fault.
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  worf

  eddie,

  I hear what you are saying, but the point I was making is that the article itself admits that JWs do not have to listen to anybody in the organization who is in authority. So this article does "play with the WTS." And acording to the info presented, it does not matter what anyone in Mother Org says to do. this article gives license to ignore WT officials completely if you feel that what they are saying is not in line with what God would want you to do.
  If you read the entire article from the 1962 bound volume pages 110-116 and give it some thought, you will see what I'm talking about.

  There is no doubt that this article was written to fit some particular situation that was probably going on at the time, but it is another example of their hypocrisy and how they try to fit certain sayings in at one time and then at another time they will go against what they've said before.But they condemn themselves in the process and you can see it if you give it enough thought.
  Eddie read the entire article and you will see what I'm talking about.

  Worf (Warrior Class)