Dead Birds And Fish

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  • VIII

    Thank Jah I saved those Watchtowers and Awake! mags my Mom sent me.

    I'm going to go read them under the blankets.

    Then I'm going to go sign back up for an in home Bible Study.


    But, it has crossed all of your minds, hasn't it?

    Remember, IT'S A CULT!!!!!

  • PSacramento

    This is not that uncommon, these things happen quite a bit on a regular basis, but unless that happen to make the news, we don't hear about them as much.

    In 1999, several thousand grackles fell from the sky and staggered about before dying in north Louisiana. It took five months to get the diagnosis: an E. coli infection of the air sacs in their skulls.


    Dead Birds in Sweden, more dead fish in Maryland, New Zealand and Brazil are now added to the phenomenon of dead birds and dead fish reported yesterday in three US states. Dead birds fell from the skies over Arizona, Louisiana, and Kentucky in the last few days. This, coupled with the thousands of dead fish in the Arkansas river is a growing mystery that can be described as somewhat eerie.

    According to the Huffington Post, an estimated 2 million fish are dead and floating in the Chesapeake Bay. Hundreds of tons of fish have washed ashore in Brazil since last Thursday. Fish found washed ashore in New Zealand had many that were missing their eyes, according to the Huffington Post. While each countries agricultural spokesman have theories as to why this is happening, the fact that is happening all over the world at the same time has not been explained.

    The dead bird and fish phenomenon on such a large reported scale is a bit different than the commonly reported isolated incidences of fish or birds found dead somewhere in the world.

    Birds falling dead in mid flight and fish without eyes are the stuff horror movies are made of. Fireworks and “startled” birds just does not seem to carry too much weight on such a large scale. The fish in Chesapeake Bay are said to have died from “cold water stress,” with smaller incidents reported in past decades.

    As the morning moves on it appears more and more reports of dead birds and fish are reported through out the world.

    Connecticut had a dead fish occurrence over a century ago that made the news in New York. In 1895, the New York Post reported a dead fish phenomenon in Connecticut. “The old fishermen called this fish cholera, according to this article. Fish were floating to the shores of some of Connecticut’s lakes and without the sanitation departments that are in place today, the fish rotted with their pieces and carcasses polluting the waters in those lakes, according to the article.

    This Connecticut incident happened over a century ago, before modern technology had a chance to pollute the waters with radiation along with chemicals used today that might kill the fish. This was most likely a natural occurrence, but without the testing that is available today, the Connecticut officials could just guess at the cause. They called it a “fish cholera outbreak.”

    Fish and birds have been found dead in large masses throughout the years, all over the world. The occurrences in so many locations in such a short span of time is what is unusual. Even the great scientific minds of today have to be considering a correlation of some type between all these reports world wide.

    Reference: Huffington Post, NY post 1895

  • MsDucky

    Could it have been something like this:

  • On July 18, 1918, two large bolts of lightning struck and killed 654 head of sheep on Mill Canyon Peak in American Fork Canyon. According to one historical account: "Forked lightning had struck twice and split down two sides of the peak...There was about a seventy-five foot swath in between the dead sheep and where not a one was injured...The dead sheep all had to be moved to the opposite side of the canyon so as to be off the 'water shed.' Men counted them as they were moved, 654 sheep had been killed."

  • On September 1, 1939, lightning hit and killed 835 sheep that had been bedded down for the night on the top of Pine Canyon in the Raft River Mountains of Box Elder County in northwest Utah. Rain from a passing thunderstorm wet the ground and sheep, causing the lightning's electrical discharge to move completely through the herd of female sheep and lambs. The next morning, fifteen sheep (out of 850) were found alive but in a dazed condition. The sheepherder was knocked temporarily unconscious, but escaped death because he was in a tent. However, burned spots on his canvas tent revealed that he probably missed the fate of the sheep by only a slim margin
  • Regarding the fish:

    Something like -

    Red tide is a naturally-occurring, higher-than-normal concentration of the microscopic algae Karenia brevis (formerly Gymnodinium breve).

    This organism produces a toxin that affects the central nervous system of fish so that they are paralyzed and cannot breathe. As a result, red tide blooms often result in dead fish washing up on Gulf beaches. When red tide algae reproduce in dense concentrations or "blooms," they are visible as discolored patches of ocean water, often reddish in color.

    Just thinking...

    thinking man sculpture

  • minimus

    I don't buy into conspiracy theories but I bet the government knows why this is happening.

  • Think About It
    Think About It

    Can't be a sign of the end according to JW theology. Need the birds to accually multiply in order to peck out the eyes and pick the flesh off the bones of all those destroyed at Armaggedon.

    Think About It

  • leavingwt

    Mass Bird, Fish Deaths Occur Regularly

  • Hairyhegoat

    Here in the UK we have reports from vets etc.. that these birds were dead before they hit the ground!! Tests show they died from massive internal trauma.. They were microwaved in mid flight by HAARP secret weapons the US are testing. These weapons can also be targeted at any country round the globe to induce weather changes and even earth quakes by focusing the radio beam on certain fault lines to make the ground resonate!! These I think are called ELF weapons . Better not say to much more as GCHQ in the UK will be tracking me already!!!


  • Mythbuster

    Undiagnosed die-off, avian - Sweden: jackdaws
    A ProMED-mail post
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    International Society for Infectious Diseases

    In this report:
    [1], [2] Falkoping, Sweden

    [1] Falkoping, Sweden
    Date: Wed 5 Jan 2011
    Source: The Local [edited]

    A county veterinarian has speculated that the birds that fell from
    the sky in central Sweden on Tuesday [4 Jan 2011] may have been
    frightened by fireworks, then run over by a car after landing on the
    road in the dark. Shortly before midnight on Tuesday, residents found
    50 to 100 jackdaws on a street in Falkoping southeast of Skovde. The
    incident echoed a number of unexplained incidents earlier this week
    across the southern US.

    "We have received information from local residents last night. Our
    main theory is that the birds were scared away because of the
    fireworks and landed on the road, but couldn't fly away from the
    stress and were hit by a car," he explained to The Local on Wednesday
    [5 Jan 2011]. He added that they likely had difficulty orienting
    themselves in the dark and although they have received one report
    involving a vehicular collision with the birds, ter Horst believes
    they may have been hit by more.

    The site where the birds were found has now been blocked for a
    veterinary inspection of the birds. Emergency services had cordoned
    off the area earlier on Wednesday [5 Jan 2011] .

    Anders Wirdheim of the Swedish Ornithological Society (Sveriges
    ornitologiska forening, SOF) believes the jackdaws likely were
    frightened in the middle of the night, then flew around in the dark
    and collided with various objects. "Jackdaws spend the night in trees
    in large flocks. If they are frightened, hundreds of birds could take
    flight at once," he told TT.

    Wirdheim noted that the affected bird species in the [recent mass
    bird die-off in Arkansas] US are also those who spend the night in
    large flocks. He added that the birds' situation may have aggravated
    because they are weakened.

    "This winter has been unusually tough and jackdaws may be in poor
    condition. That makes it easier for them to fly into different
    objects. There is very little food in the wild compared with previous
    years and I see dying birds every day," he said.

    [Byline: Vivian Tse]

    Communicated by:
    <[email protected]>

    [2] Falkoping, Sweden
    Date: Thu 6 Jan 2011
    Source: The Local [edited]

    The cause of death of the jackdaws found dead on the streets of
    Falkoping, in central Sweden, was external force, not infection or
    disease, showed the autopsy completed on Wednesday [5 Jan 2011]. 5 of
    the dead birds were autopsied by the National Veterinary Institute,
    (Statens veterinarmedicinska anstalt, SVA) and results showed that
    the birds had died of acute blunt force.

    According to Marianne Elvander, zoologist at SVA, the jackdaws were
    killed by severe internal bleeding. None of the birds showed sign of
    infection or illness.

    "Our assessment is that they weren't carrying any contagious disease,
    but figuring out exactly what did kill them, other than being some
    sort of external force, is rather outside our area," said Olov
    Andersson, SVA's information officer, to TT news agency.

    "What comes to mind is that they may have flown up, and been hit, or
    something of the sort," he speculated, a theory defended by most experts.

    The birds may have been frightened by something in the middle of the
    night, flown about blindly, and died in collisions with different
    objects in the dark.

    Communicated by:
    <[email protected]>

    [Jackdaws (Corvus monedul) are dark plumage passerine birds in the
    same genus as crows and ravens. They live in large flocks near urban
    areas, coming to roost together in trees at night.

    Both this Swedish mass bird die-off and the recent incident in
    Arkansas over the New Years holiday has been proven to be caused from
    trauma. Both incidents show similar patterns in that it happened at
    night during extreme weather conditions in birds that roost in big
    flocks. When startled, the birds fly off blindly and hit other
    objects and crash to the ground. There are possibly more incidents
    like this which are unrelated, occurring locally around the world but
    are under reported. The international news coverage has raised the
    public's awareness, and so more incidents are likely to be reported.

    More information about the jackdaw can be found at

    For a map of Falkoping, Sweden, see <> - Mod.KL]

    [see also:
    Undiagnosed die-off, avian - USA (02): (AR, LA) 20110105.0055
    Undiagnosed die-off, avian - USA: (AR), RFI 20110104.0036
    Undiagnosed die-off, avian - Ukraine: (ZP) wild birds, RFI 20101029.3930
    Undiagnosed die-off, avian - Russia: (KX) wild birds, RFI 20101001.3566
    Undiagnosed die-off, avian - USA: (CA) 2007 agent ident. 20090303.0875
    Undiagnosed die-off, avian - USA: (CA), RFI 20090109.0093
    Undiagnosed die-off, avian - USA (FL): RFI 20081005.3145
    Undiagnosed die-off, swan - UK (02): (Wales), avian influenza
    NOT 20080619.1909
    Undiagnosed die-off, avian - USA (multistate) 20070705.2131]


    A ProMED-mail post
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    International Society for Infectious Diseases

    Date: 4 Jan 2011
    Source: [edited]

    Power line blamed for bird kill in Louisiana
    Louisiana's state wildlife veterinarian says at least some of an
    estimated 450 birds that died near Baton Rouge may have flown into a
    power line.

    Jim LaCour said Tuesday [4 Jan 2011] the grackles, starlings,
    brown-headed cowbirds and red-winged blackbirds had broken beaks and
    backs. He says some live birds had broken wings but ran too fast to catch.

    The bird deaths Monday came a few days after about 3000 blackbirds
    fell from the sky in central Arkansas. Scientists there say
    celebratory fireworks on New Year's Eve likely sent the birds into
    such a tizzy that they crashed into homes, cars and each other before
    plummeting to their deaths. Officials say such massive wildlife kills
    are not uncommon.

    [Byline: Janet Mcconnaughey]

    Communicated by:
    HealthMap Alerts via ProMED-mail
    <[email protected]>

    [Birds becoming disoriented and flying into power lines occasionally
    happens, but seldom in such vast numbers. - Mod.TG]

    [see also:
    Undiagnosed die-off, avian - USA (02): (AR, LA) 20110105.0055]


    A ProMED-mail post
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    International Society for Infectious Diseases

    Date: 3 Jan 2011
    Source: 40/ [edited]

    Experts Close In On What Killed Fish
    Monday [3 Jan 2011], officers with the Arkansas Game and Fish
    Commission said an investigation into what killed nearly 100 000
    fresh water drum fish has turned up the possibility of a virus or bacteria.

    It was on Thursday (30 Dec 2010) when people started reporting the
    dead fish lining the banks of the Arkansas River.

    Game and fish officers said that during their investigation, they
    discovered the dead fish covered about 17 miles of river from the
    Ozark Lock and Dam downstream to River Mile 240, directly south of
    Hartman, Arkansas.

    The dead fish seemed to only be limited to fresh water drum fish.
    Game officers said the type of disease will be determined by further testing.

    The results are expected to be available in about 3 weeks.

    Communicated by:
    <[email protected]>

    [Most bacteria will grow in 24-48 hours. Viral cultures usually take
    about that amount of time, but fungal cultures may take 14 or more days.

    While there are a number fresh water diseases, none of them on my
    reference list are specific to drum fish only. Sadly, this article
    does not provide any clues as to why the wildlife officials believe
    or suspect it is a bacterial or viral disease.

    An authoritative report on the results would be appreciated.. - Mod.TG]

    [The interactive HealthMap/ProMED map of Arkansas showing Hartman can
    be found at <>. - Mod.MPP]

    [see also:
    Undiagnosed die-off, fish - USA: (AR), freshwater drum 20110104.0035]

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    are posted, but the accuracy and completeness of the
    information, and of any statements or opinions based
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  • Snoozy

    Well, I decided to do a search on what can cause an animals mouth/tongue to turn blue or have a blue tint..the results were interesting.

    One thing that stood out was that if an animlas mouth turns blue, just as in a humans, it indicates a very sick animal. Usually associated with not getting enough air. Pneumonia or influenza being mentioned..

    I can't post links here but I would recommend looking blue mouths is pretty interesting.

    My imagination was going towards, a research project gone wrong..

    The cold temperature changes affecting the animals..

    They likened it also to a cyanide type poisoning..

    If so did they get it from the water that we drink?

    I have noticed a lot of articles lately about our polluted water supplies..

    Snoozy..going to look up cyanide in our water supply..

    Another though..most of the animals usually travel in one species..or packs..or specific schools of fish. Possibly they all were exposed in the same area? Same with the birds, they too could have all drank in the same area..?

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