Forget disfellowshipping, reinstatement is grossly unbiblical

by sabastious 16 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    Disfellowshipping has a "measure" of validity since in the 1st century you could be removed from the Christian congregation for practicing sin. (but not shunned outside of worship ceremonies).

    The process in which someone is accepted back into the fold in the JW policy is completely made up. It's funny that Witnesses will poke fun at Catholics for making up purgatory when they have completely pulled the reinstatement process out of their asses!

    All you have to do to figure out how the Bible treats people who want to come back is read the parable of the prodigal son. It's no questions asked! PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

    What if the Prodigal Son went back into his debauchery? Would the father regret taking him in with no questions asked? NO! He would stand by his act of love no matter what the outcome was.

    -Sab

  • Joliette
    Joliette

    Wow intresting stuff.

  • bez
    bez

    i agree completely ... food for thought that sebastious!! Well thought of !

  • believingxjw
    believingxjw

    The Watchtower is a pharisaical religion that just loves to add more and more laws. Trusting in God and his Son is nice but LAW and LAWYERS and BOOKS BOOKS BOOKS is even nicer! The Governing Body suffers from a lack of faith in God!

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    The Watchtower is a pharisaical religion that just loves to add more and more laws.

    What's interesting is every one of those laws is carefully crafted to appear like it comes from the Bible. They are MASTERS at doing whatever they want and making it look, on the surface, that the Bible agrees with it.

    -Sab

  • Lozhasleft
    Lozhasleft

    Very interesting.....

    Loz x

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    1000TH POST!!!!!

    Okay. Needed to get that out of my system. The situation in the Corinthian congregation is often used as the basis for the concept of 'reinstatement'. But there is a glaring lack of detail in this that requires them to make up stuff.

    1. The person who saddened everyone--well, do we know who that was for sure? No. He might've been the person who committed fornication, or he might not have been. That guy may never have bothered to repent, for all we know.

    2. Confirming their love for the repentant sinner did not require a committee of elders to get a letter from him, then meet him to 'determine' if he was truly repentant, then decide what 'was already decided in heaven'.

    This goes for the prodigal son as well. The prodigal son didn't sit outside his father's house for a year, then write a letter to his father to be accepted back, then meet with the father's slaves who would then determine if his father should actually let him back in. The father saw his son from a distance, then RAN to meet him, rejoiced that he was back. How would he have known this son wasn't coming back just out of desperation and not out of true repentance? That wasn't at issue--the father accepted him as he was, broken and dejected.

    In the end, we're all like that. We could all use some fixing, and that's really the point of it all, if you're a Christian. Jesus died for sinners, not righteous people. He died so we could be accepted without hesitation by the Father.

    3. The sinner in 1 Corinthians 5 obviously had a very public situation going on. Both disfellowshipping and reinstatement processes are carried out in secret (not unlike how the Sanhedrin tried Jesus, illegally), and the only thing you know about it is what you hear in the rumor mill. Since you're trying to shame people anyway, might as well have a public trial like it's 'The Crucible' or something. (sigh)

    -sd-7

  • sir82
    sir82

    The Watchtower Society - correcting God's errors and omissions from the Bible since 1879!

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    Awesome stuff Sebastious.

    "Sin" and "judgment" is and always has been big business and a very effective means of control by the priesthood. But the Prodigal Son parable shows that there is no judgment. In my studies I have come across more than one spiritual teacher who has said that Jesus condensed the teachings of the entire Bible into that one parable, and then condensed our spiritual journey even further into one verse, at Matthew 13:33.... "The Kingdom of the heavens is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three large measures of flour, until the whole mass was fermented."

    Our role in this is to keep coming back to incarnate as many times as necessary until we progress enough in our spiritual evolution where we are not required to return, but then many who HAVE accomplished this then VOLUNTEER to come back because we love humanity and want to continue to help the earth in its evolution. Jesus is a prime example of an ascended Master who came back voluntarily out of love. The trick is to remember why we came in time to do something about it.

    ~PS

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    "Sin" and "judgment" is and always has been big business and a very effective means of control by the priesthood.

    Very true. If people knew the truth, that the only requirement for forgiveness is being human, religion would lose money.

    -Sab

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