JW opinions on gay adoption

by serenitynow! 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • serenitynow!
    serenitynow!

    The whole Prop 8 thing reminded me of a conversation I had with my aunt a couple of years ago- when I was inactive but mentally still a JW. There was a "sister" who died young leaving her 4 daughters orphaned between the ages of 5-11 approximately. My aunt was telling me the story, telling me that the kids' aunt & uncle in my aunt's KH went ahead and took the kids in. What I found kind of alarming was that my aunt said something about how the kids were about to be taken in either through foster care or adoption by a gay couple. According to my aunt, the notion of the kids going to a gay couple was the impetus to make the JW family adopt the children.

    Now it is completely possible that my aunt misunderstood the situation or put her own spin on it, but I thought that view was incredibly ignorant. I'm glad that the family was able to take the kids because unless the family is highly dysfunctional, I think it's better for kids to be with family.

    Speaking as a person who came from a highly dysfunctional family with the JW thing added in for some extra crazy, I think that being adopted by a nice normal gay couple would've been great. Even now I do not have a normal loving relationship with either of my parents.

    With the way the foster system is as far as kids not being able to stay together with their siblings, and the difficulty with placing minority children and older children with good parents, and just the lack of enough good people who have the desire and ability to adopt; how can anyone possibly justify not wanting to have gay people adopt kids? In my mind I was thinking, so "would you rather the children were split up bouncing around in foster homes, where maybe they wouldn't be loved, and be able to stay together?"

    To me it just kind of illustrates the small mindedness and inablity to see the "big picture" of JWs.

    Or is it just my family? Because that side of my family does not do well with gays at all.

  • GromitSK
    GromitSK

    I would not been keen on allowing any members of a religion like JWs etc, that indoctrinates its children, to adopt or foster.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Serenitynow asked, "how can anyone possibly justify not wanting to have gay people adopt kids?"

    JWs consider homosexuality a sinful and disgusting practice and would view any child adopted by a gay couple to be a child in moral peril.

  • metatron
    metatron

    There are so many kids out there - sadly, many classified as minorities - that need adoption. Whatever your feelings about gays may be - and I used to be prejudiced this way - are they really better off without caring parents, in the hands of the state, until adulthood?

    OTOH, I know ( and maybe YOU know) eventually there will be a publically reported story about a kid raised by male gay parents who tells them at puberty, "I don't want to 'explore my sexuality', I want pu**y!"

    OK, so my sense of humor is often "inappropriate". But think about how stuff really works out in life instead of just reaction.......

    metatron

  • yourmomma
    yourmomma

    great thread, i just asked a similar question on the prop 8 thread. how can someone say they would rather have kids in horrible living conditions rather than be with a gay couple that is stable?

    that makes no sense to me.

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    There is a lot of comparison on this thread between loving gay guardians and unloving guardians. I would like to know if having loving gay guardians is still considered worse than loving straight guardians. I think children would still be victimised for having gay guardians and so would find life more difficult than being raised in a straight family.

    Do people feel society will ever get to the point where children are made to feel comfortable regardless of whether they are raised by single, gay or straight parents or guardians?

  • serenitynow!
    serenitynow!

    I agree JWfacts. Children raised in a home with a gay couple would face some challenges. I don't think though that just because they are gay that they should not be allowed to adopt. The issue with my aunt was that the JW family was not in a big rush to adopt those children until they found out that a gay couple was interested in adopting them. It seems that the JW family didn't see a big problem with the kids being in the "system," but they had a problem with the fact that the couple was gay.

  • GromitSK
    GromitSK

    Surely raising children as JWs means they face challenges too? I always recall the JW kids at my school were regarded as being a bit freaky.

  • blondie
    blondie

    I'm surprised that any jw would support a non-jw adopting a jw child. With the WTS rule that minor children of non-jws being subject to permanent execution with their non-jw parents, these children would then die at Armageddon.

    When I was younger, a child, I felt it was best for jws to adopt as many non-jw children as possible to save them. Does the WTS encourage adoption?

    *** w66 7/1 pp. 415-416 Questions From Readers ***

    Would it be proper for a Christian married couple to adopt a child?—J. W., U.S.A.

    Whether to adopt a child is a matter to be decided by the individual married couple. The situation is similar to determining whether to have a natural child, in cases where that is possible. The decision made by one married couple in such matters would not be the criterion on which others must base their decision. Nor would it be fitting to criticize persons for the course they choose to follow in these respects.

    The Watch Tower Society has no arrangements for assisting persons in arranging child adoptions. It does not maintain a list of names and addresses of individuals who desire to have their children adopted by others. Nor can the Society furnish legal aid in such matters.

    If marriage mates legally adopt a child, they become responsible for that child in a manner that is comparable to the responsibility resting upon natural parents. Hence, Christians who adopt a child will wish to care for that child properly, giving attention not only to the child’s physical needs but also to the child’s more important spiritual needs. The adopting father, who is the head of the household, is Scripturally required to shoulder the principal responsibility for both the child’s material and spiritual welfare.—1 Tim. 5:8; Isa. 38:19; Eph. 5:21–6:4.

    Some Christians have viewed childlessness or the having of fewer children to be a circumstance allowing them more time for the service of Jehovah God. Childless couples, for instance, do not have the responsibilities that go with the rearing of children and thus have greater opportunities to expend their time and energies in the direct pursuit of Kingdom interests.—Matt. 6:33.

    Married couples, of course, must govern their own affairs. They know their individual circumstances and desires. So, it is up to them to decide whether to adopt a child or not.—Gal. 6:5.

    *** w56 8/15 p. 511 Questions From Readers ***

    If an unmarried pregnant woman who has made arrangements for the baby to be adopted comes to a knowledge of the truth before the baby is born, should she then feel obligated to keep the child in order to teach it the truth of God’s Word?

    One may argue that if the baby is adopted it will have more in a material way and will not have to bear the stigma of illegitimacy. But spiritual provisions are more vital than material things, and if necessary the social stigma can be avoided by the mother’s moving to another place.

    Jehovah commands the parent: "These words that I am commanding you today must prove to be on your heart, and you must inculcate them in your son and speak of them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road and when you lie down and when you get up." How could a parent do this if she gives her baby away? How could she give it the right start in life: "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it"?—Deut. 6:6, 7, NW; Prov. 22:6.

    At the moment it might seem wise to unburden oneself of the problem by having the baby adopted, but it would be against the motherly instincts and as time passed there might be bitter regret because of this course. It would be against natural affection, although in these last days of critical, difficult times we are told that many persons would be "having no natural affection." It would seem better to follow the principles of motherly affection and love for offspring and the keeping of a clear conscience. Even the principles of Christian faith would seem to be violated by failure to look after the child one brought into existence. Paul wrote: "Certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith."—2 Tim. 3:3; 1 Tim. 5:8,

    NW.

    So it would seem more courageous and more Christian to bear the burden of keeping and rearing the baby, facing whatever consequences that might follow, such as loss of reputation. Especially so now that the mother has come to a knowledge of the truth and is in position to teach the truth to her offspring and perhaps make it possible for it to live forever in a new world of righteousness. The person finding herself in this difficult position must make her own decision as to the course she will follow.

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