by glenster 5 Replies latest social humour
In entertainment news, things just keep getting hairier for "The Beaver."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beaver_%28film%29
(I know--don't treat manic depression with liquor. Still, I kept waiting
for a post in humor on Mel so I could use that line and one didn't show
up.)
Go to an AA Meeting some time, that look of Mel's, you will recognize it on many faces.
This is what I have on Mel so far:
Knowing he's manic-depressive, the behavior reminds me of a bipolar person
who's treating it with alcohol, which indicates they's not taking their meds.
If someone like that goes into tantrum mode, it can be impossible to get a word
in edge-wise and they say/shout all sorts of things they otherwise know better
about. They can be furious and don't know what to do, and say the most offen-
sive things and behave badly like they just feel hell with everything and every-
one. The tapes at least prove that's going on.
http://www.ehow.com/about_5131001_effects-alcohol-bipolar-disorder.html
http://www.allaboutbipolar.com/2009/08/07/all-about-bipolar-alcohol-and-its-effects-on-bipolar-disorder/
He probably doesn't need someone to explain how those words about Jews, Afi-
can-Americans, Mexicans, and women are indefensible if he only throws them
around when he's bipolar and drunk. (For example, Whoopi Goldberg says she knows
him and he's not actually racist when he's sane.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdrAVDsfBug&feature=player_embedded
But he still needs to apologize for his words and behavior and be responsible
about treating his bipolar disorder. If we're not going to banish someone like
that to an island for life and instead look to a way to remedy the problem and
bring him up to speed with the rest of us, I'm sure of that.
I'm not sure what all transpired between the man and woman from hearing the
tapes. It could just be as it seems or it's possible, especially since she's
likely familiar with him being bipolar and throwing tantrums if he's been drink-
ing, she could have provoked him (over an affair or money or ?) after he'd been
drinking then been on her good behavior and denial while she taped him, which
would further provoke him. Plus it's been said the tapes were edited (a mike
hum fading at the end of one of his phrases and such).
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/mel-gibsons-rants-messed/story?id=11169736
At first I read conflicting reports about him physically abusing her.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5611094/oksana_grigorieva_extortion_probe_mel.html?cat=17
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gossip/2010/07/oksana-grigorieva-teeth-picture-dentist.html
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/07/19/oksana-grigorieva-legal-trouble-mel-gibson-expert-says/
http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/19/mel-gibson-oksana-grigorieva-restraining-order-dentist-teeth-tooth-punch-face/
Currently, there are allegedly E-mails which indicate he did it. However, why
would she then edit the tapes? He hit her but she wanted to clean up her side
regarding why? But if he hit her, he needs to be brought to task by the law
whatever else is true.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/07/exclusive-mels-email-oksana-after-brawl-i-am-unspeakably-sorry
PS: without taking anything away from the thoughts about how Mel sounds on
the tapes, which I hear about like anyone else hears, I'm having a couple
thoughts about Oksana Grigorieva, too.
Mel alleges she wanted to hold the release of such tapes over his head to get
more than 15 million and that that set him off (accusations of gold digger,
etc., and that she's lying that she isn't, predominate). Her stance is that was
his reaction to her politely agreeing with him about 15 million (?).
1. As mentioned above, the tapes were edited. YouTube mashup tapes show how
editing can change the meaning of a tape (usually intending a comic effect,
including with the recent tapes of Mel, which could prove to be ironic). That's
why you don't edit a tape like that you want to serve as evidence for something
important.
If it were me, I'd hand the police an unedited tape with a sheet of notes in-
structing the listener to listen to the highlight at 3 min. into it, another at
6 and a half min. into it, etc. These tapes were professionally edited so the
average Internet listener, not a police expert, wasn't supposed to notice.
2. I've had to deal with someone who was acting a bit like Mel, too--threaten-
ing and unreasonable and hateful-sounding behind closed doors, not wanting to
listen or understand as much as rant, and you could probably tell from my voice
at the time. I don't hear that in her voice. She's the most even-tempered per-
son panicking for their life I ever heard of. She sounds like she's disagreeing
with a librarian about which book would make a better reference book to withdraw
from the library.
