Any talks of Ray Franz available?

by Nostromo 18 Replies latest jw friends

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  cabasilas

  You have a PM.
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  Nostromo

  Sent you a PM
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  Titus

  Cabasilas - will you put it there? You can if you want. I am uploading it now, so you can download it after and put it there.

  Nostromo - I am uploading it now. It is very slowly - 15 KB/s. If connection will be OK, it will be there in 2 hours.
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  Titus

  HERE
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  Nostromo

  Great thanks
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  Olin Moyles Ghost

  See: http://www.jwproclaimers.org/Franz%20Raymond%20-%20Life%20Everlasting%20in%20Gods%20Approaching%20New%20Order.mp3
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  Nostromo

  Hmm, seems to be the same talk that Titus posted.. its quite surprising to me that jwproclaimers have a talk by Ray Franz on their site!
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  cabasilas

  I'm curious if there are any other recordings that people might have? I'd be very interested in listening to them.

  This lecture is also up at the Internet Archive (with a very descriptive listing):

  http://www.archive.org/details/LifeEverlastingIn)GodsApproachingNewOrder
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  callitquits76

  But let us not forget that no doubt if somebody had an audio recording of US when WE were in the 'truth', no doubt we would be saying similar things to what Ray said in this talk in 1976; all the old cliche's about the Borg, Jehovah etc. What is important is that all of us, Ray included, upon examining the facts, made a conscious decision to leave.

  We were all victims of this mind control, probably even members of the GB to a certain extent.