Sex,Porneia & Sin

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  • dssynergy

    so how is it that the WTS say that porneia includes adultery??

  • Snoozy

    Thank you Blondie!!!I looked in a regular dictionary and couldn't find it. (Porneia)

    Thanks again..


  • sherah

    Think of your chances of finding love/marriage/suitors in your current inactive state. You are going to have to widen the net if you are serious about dating.

    if I started dating worldly men, then married one, what are my chances of being disfellowshipped?? Or, if I keep it private, and show up married, what will they simply reprove me?

    1. Marrying a wordly man is not a DF or reproving offense in it of itself. You will be counseled (if you agree to meet with them) and maybe marked depending on your BOE. If it became known that you 'sampled the goods' before you married, then they will convene a judicial committee.

  • Blue Grass
    Blue Grass
    so how is it that the WTS say that porneia includes adultery??

    Porneia does not include adultery, but according to the scriptures porneia and adultery are equally bad.

    Blue Grass

  • Pistoff

    The WT takes a fundamentalist approach to sex in many ways; while they do not disapprove of sex per se, once it is anything but missionary position sex inside a marriage they approve of, it is on a par with demonism.

    They believe that a sexual act outside of marriage is an unclean thing; many think that the OT views it the same way, although that is not clear at all from examining it and examining the modern jewish view of the OT's guide to behavior.

    The WT cannot separate irresponsible sex or unethical sex from sex between consenting unmarried adults; to them it is a black and white issue. Married sex is OK; all others, including non-sex like masturbation, is evil and satanic.

    It is their puritanical view, not the Bible's explicit texts, that is the issue. They have a 1950's hygiene film view about sex, mixed with a fundamentalist fervor.

    I believe that witnesses that grow to maturity without sexual hangups are people who have learned when to ignore the constant guilt inducing harangues from the organization.


    In Acts 15;20 , James instructs that the Gentiles to abstain from things polluted by idols, from porniea and from what is strangled and from blood. Porniea in that text refers to marriages that are considered unlawful by Jewish standards.

    I got that from Catholic apologist Jason Evert.


  • PSacramento


    1) illicit sexual intercourse

    a) adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.

    b) sexual intercourse with close relatives; Lev. 18

    c) sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman; Mk. 10:11,12

    2) metaph. the worship of idols

    a) of the defilement of idolatry, as incurred by eating the sacrifices offered to idols

  • JediMaster

    I agree with PSacramento. Last I checked, porneia was ANY kind of sexual encounter/situation/use of the genital organs with another person, outside of God's arrangement of marriage. As to why you guys are not finding it in a dictionary...well porneia is the Greek term (right?), you have to look up the English equivalent: fornication. Actually, searching porneia in wikipedia will redirect you to fornication.

    Porneia does not include adultery

    So, yeah, adultery is a form of porneia (fornication). Having sex with someone other than your mate.

    Jedi Master

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