True Spirituality

snowbird

But, just read this board and research the personal experiences of sane, rational, intelligent people that have experienced their true spirituality. I never fully experienced it as a Jehovah's Witness because I was in a box.

The poster, Journey-On, wrote this in response to one of Terry's topics.

It's so profound, imo, that I thought it deserved a thread of its own.

You cannot embrace your true spirituality as a JW - everything is either/or.

If you voice anything, anything, out of line with "the Society's view," you are immediately suspected of "prideful, independent thinking."

Is there any wonder that some of us are screwed up for life?

Syl

Oh, snowbird, sometimes you and I are on the same wave length. No matter how "theocratic" I felt, it was always relative to how many hours I had put in field service, how regular my meeting attendace was, how many Bible studies I was conducting, how many return visits I made, how many mags I placed, whether we were conducting our family study with the kids regularly.

When I discovered what real spirituality and communion with our creator was about (I'm still learning), it was amazing!! Once your eyes are opened, they cannot be shut again.

BurnTheShips

This has been my experience as well.

Are we fools, Snow? Or souls too smart to be in the realm of certainty? I look forward to seeing you when we all get home.

I tied myself with wire

To let the horses roam free

Playing with the fire

Until the fire played with me

The stone was semi-precious

We were barely conscious

Two souls too smart to be

In the realm of certainty

Even on our wedding day

We set ourselves on fire

Oh God, do not deny her

It’s not if I believe in love

If love believes in me

Oh, believe in me

At the moment of surrender

I folded to my knees

I did not notice the passers-by

And they did not notice me

I’ve been in every black hole

At the altar of the dark star

My body’s now a begging bowl

That’s begging to get back, begging to get back

To my heart

To the rhythm of my soul

To the rhythm of my unconsciousness

To the rhythm that yearns

To be released from control

I was punching in the numbers at the ATM machine

I could see in the reflection

A face staring back at me

At the moment of surrender

Of vision over visibility

I did not notice the passers-by

And they did not notice me

I was speeding on the subway

Through the stations of the cross

Every eye looking every other way

Counting down ’til the train would stop

At the moment of surrender

Of vision of over visibility

I did not notice the passers-by

And they did not notice me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k18rlUe_nc

BTS

snowbird

I'm still learning myself.

Had something happen the other week relative to my daughter's losing her husband that left me awestruck.

All I've got to say about it is that GOD is truly LOVE.

Syl

snowbird

I look forward to seeing you when we all get home.

Oh, Burn.

Syl

Terry

In Terry's tiny world of cobwebs and maniacal laughter (and a white coat that ties behind my back) Spirituality is the emotional connection

to imaginary values which are profoundly piggy-backing off our noblest aspirations, hopes and dreams.

In other words, we deeply feel something because it is linked to the biggest, brightest conceivable ideal thing we can imagine.

But, an ideal is conceptual and not necessarily welded to reality.

It is like a mother who looks at her ordinary average 5 year old son and sees a beautiful, talented genius who fills her heart with great wonder, awe and fulfillment. Clearly,some of that is connected to reality and some of it is wish-fulfillment.

We humans clearly aren't comfortable with reality every waking minute of the day. Especially when it seems bleek and unpromising.

We seek refuge in our "world of the mind". We can concoct something a whole lot better for ourselves; if not now--at some future time.

Nothing wrong in that. It is like taking a nip of alcohol to settle the nerves and relax the body after a long day at work.

But, when we cross the line from normal, wishful thinking into total abandonment of reality and enter our dreamworld AS THOUGH it has more reality than the actual reality---we endanger ourselves.

That line is in a different spot for each of us.

We valued "God" and "knowledge" and "inspired Truth" so much (our ideals) we became part of a mind control Cult.

Isn't this warning enough that A LINE DOES EXIST we must be wary of crossing?

That's my report from the asylum.

TRUE "spirituality" is a contradiction in terms. It is like saying "square circle".

snowbird

we became part of a mind control Cult.

Yet, we left - if not physically, mentally and emotionally.

That should count for something.

My thoughts from the wilderness.

Syl

snowbird

True spirituality an oxymoron?

Forsooth, Terry!

Syl

journey-on

You may be one-dimensional, Terry, but many of us can function quite happily and successfully I might add in the "real" world with both a rational discriminating mind and a spiritual component working as well.

The noblest aspirations, hopes, and dreams, imo, are achieved precisely because of the piggy-back (as you put it) of one's TRUE spirituality (no contradiction in terms, imo). I wouldn't call it piggy-back, however, I would call it working in tandem.

PSacramento

For a Christian, Spirituality means being One with the Holy Spirit and be "default" one with God.

It is a very intense spiritual moment when it happens, the flood gates do really open up and it seems that things are just "different".

There is a peacfulness and a warmth, a sense of "coming home" and of "belonging".

I think that spirituality is what unites people of different faiths and while not all paths lead to God for everyone, I do think God is on ALL paths, waiting for us.

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