Most historical "documents" about historical figures were written 100's of years after them.
Did Jesus Ever Speak of writings Outside the Bible?
by ClassickConcept 25 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Leolaia
"As the Scripture (graphé) says, 'From his breast shall flow fountains of living water' " (John 7:38).
Not in the OT.
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snowbird
"As the Scripture (graphé) says, 'From his breast shall flow fountains of living water' " (John 7:38).
Not in the OT.
Perhaps a conflate (lovely word!) of Isaiah 44:3, 55:1, 58:11; Ezekiel 47:1; Joel 3:18; and Zechariah 13:1, 14:8?
Syl
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Leolaia
That's a really huge conflate, between seven separate verses, in an attempt to recall a specific "scripture". On the other hand, original compositions typically freely lifted phrases from all over the OT to make the new composition sound "scriptural" and "traditional". Revelation is a good example of this, which is the most allusive book in the NT (and no one would quote Revelation and claim that it is really a verse from the OT, unless they were confused!). The same is the case with 1 Enoch, or with Jonah in the OT. In none of those verses you cited is there anything resembling the basic image of the cited scripture, i.e. water flowing from a person's own belly. All those verses you cited simply refer to the flowing of water in Jerusalem, or in the land of Israel. So none of these are a true parallel and it looks like the cited scripture is more of an original composition.
More plausible is the idea that what underlies the verse is a Hebrew midrash on Isaiah 12:3, which re-reads m-m`yny h-yshw`h "from the wells of salvation" as m-m`y yshw` "from the belly of Jesus". But this is hypothetical.
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Lozhasleft
Jesus having been reared as a Jew would definitely have been familiar with the Hebrew scrolls ...hence he quoted from them...
Loz x