Did you get token invites to witness gatherings?

by truthseeker 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    I was pretty much a loner the whole time I was in my old congregation, and it wasn't for lack of young people - there were plenty of "young ones", but because of various situations that went unchecked, rumors and just plain nastiness, I did not have any friends.

    Some of you might relate to this. You feel like you don't fit in either camp - the world and the congregation - a rock in a hard place.

    On the rare occasion I did get a token invite to a JW gathering, it was usually a video evening, as we called them in the UK. Since I had no social life to speak of, I would attend these rare and "exciting" events but it was always a let down.

    You see, unless you have shared history with these folks, it's pretty much a non event. The whole evening might last 3 hours, the movie is 2 hours and then there's an hour left of awkwardness where you realize you have absolutely nothing in common with any of them and after the initial introductions, how's the job etc you're pretty much left out of the picture while you hear them talking about their vacations, who's going out with who and where the next meet up is.

    Replace video evening with annual barbecue, wash and rinse...

    Anyone here relate anything similar?

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    For some reason me and my family were OFTEN overlooked when there were gatherings, EVEN OF OUR SUPPOSEDLY CLOSE FRIENDS. We would see Facebook posts and pictures of our supposedly best friends having a huge cookout, pool party, sledding party, or what have you and we never got a call or email or anything about it.

    It was a challenge to hide these things from our child, who would have been heartbroken to know that her supposed best friend was having get-togethers and not even calling her.

    AND THIS WAS BEFORE I STEPPED DOWN AND STARTED FADING.

    We are fun and personable people, so what's the explanation? There is NO genuine LOVE there in the Borg. Being a normal guy with a full-time job, my weekend service was also family time. I very rarely worked with anyone buy my family in service, even when I was a very active up-and-coming MS. In the Borg, when you're out of sight, you're out of mind. They don't REALLY think of you or care about you. If they didn't see you while they were arranging their party, you simply weren't invited; you certainly weren't important enough to be thought of while absent from sight.

  • nugget
    nugget

    In or old congregation we felt we fitted in and were part of a brotherhood, we didn't have the children and although our social life was not manic it was pleasant.

    Our last congregation was bizarre there were cliques and although there were congregation socials bi annually we were rarely invited to anything other than these. We were asked to be make up guests at a couple of big weddings but as soon as the children arrived we lost any claim to a social invite that didn't incorporate play dates for the children.

    I had 2 good mum friends and we did arrange for play dates with the children and they understood the problems with babysitters so we did socialise and gave the children opportunities to play together during the school holidays.

    It could be argued that we could have chosen to be more proactive ourselves, we did host get togethers for small numbers but the society really doesn't approve of too much socialising anyway. I've actually been more sociable since leaving the organisation although I have now lost any babysitters I once had.

  • life is to short
    life is to short

    Yes totally.

    I remember once where I was visiting a sister in the hospital and I had just came back from Bethel. No one spoke to me when I walked in the room. There was one elder in the room and at least three MS. It was like I was not even there. Then this really loud and totally worldly witnesses comes in. She had not been to the meetings in years and everyone just gushes over her. How are you doing on and on. I just stood in the back of the room feeling so horrible and wondering what was wrong with me. No one even said hi to me expect the sick sister and it was like hi what are you doing here.

    LITS

  • Truthexplorer
    Truthexplorer

    Despite the fact I was in a very large congregation (when I first became a witness-back in 1991), I was hardly ever invited out by people of my own age. Over the space of about two years, I could probably count on my hand the number of times I was invited out. I even made efforts to invite Brothers and Sisters. I was only 23 years old at the time, living in a very large city, in another country and yet felt completely isolated and all alone.

    I would often reflect on the days when I would be socialising with all my friends every weekend and always looked forward to going out and enjoying a social life. I sacrificed all my old friends for the truth. So as you can imagine, for a young man having no social network whatsoever was deeply difficult. I would often lapse back and miss meetings for weeks on end. On my return to the meetings at one point, the presiding overseer, who initially tried to help me at that time, (which I did appreciate) suddenly started to ignore me (walk past me) if I happened to turn up at the hall. This didn’t help at all. He even rudely walked passed my mother, who had stayed with me for about 3 months to give me support which I so desperately needed at that time.

    Being a young man or woman in the JW'S is a real test of faith. It is all work and no play in many cases. There are no youth groups or the like within the organisation, that such ones can look forward to each week. If you are one of the 'lucky' ones, that fit in, you may have plenty of social events; but it is hit and miss for most young witnesses. I know of two individuals in my hall who I know are being sidelined by the other youths within the hall. My wife tells me how shocking it is that such lovely people are simply left out. One of the these ones is a kind hearted 18 year old sister. I simply cant beleive why she is being left out all the time. Her mother often tells my wife of the pain she feels because of this. Of course, most of the teens in my hall are all elders children and seem to mix only among themselves. The other girl is only 13, and again, the same story. All work, no play. In all probability, it is very likely that such ones are being set up to fail spiritually. Their needs are not being met socially. Many of these ones will either end up fading away or simply end up making friends with people outside of the faith, which of course will then lead to them being watched/marked by the 'loving shepherds' of the hall.

    My current congregation is shocking, I know for a fact that there are cliques (ie elders families and pioneers) who often arrange get togethers and leave out the same people each time (about a third of the congregation, us included). This has caused my wife a lot of bitterness. Thankfully, I have a couple of sincere friends I have met over the years, and manage to go out occasionally for a pint (both are now faders). I simply dont rely on 'THE brothers at the hall' to socialise on a regular basis; because it just simply wont happen. I enjoy occassionally going out with my work mates, or 'worldly' relatives for a drink. at least I can let my hair down and have a bit of a laugh with these ones. Yet, I am comfortable with this, because I use my discernment who I socailise with, as I still maintain my relationship with Jehovah. It is unfortunate, but in many cases the brothers simply have no other option available to them, but to socialise with people 'who are not in the faith'. Many brothers and sisters in many congregations probably do the same, as they tend to end up in similiar situations.

    Unfortunately, isolating oneself in thier livingroom surrounded by four walls each weekend, year upon year is enough to crack up the best of us. Anyway, its friday night, I'm off for a pint, catch you all later!

    TE

  • spawn
    spawn

    We went to a few but these people haven't a clue how to hold a gathering, a bunch of tight arses with the booze and the conversation was nothing but borg stuff.

    Now when we had the odd party we had good food and plenty of booze!!!!

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    Truthexplorer,

    Thanks for sharing your experience. I can imagine how hard it was for you to give up everything for the truth, yet be treated like a nobody.

    I thought this comment you made was profound....

    In all probability, it is very likely that such ones are being set up to fail spiritually. Their needs are not being met socially.

    You're absolutely spot on...many JWs are being setup to fail spiritually because they have no social network to support them. This was certainly the case with me. I can honestly say that from 15 onwards I had no social life at the weekends, on holidays etc. there was nothing. Meanwhile, my peers were going to concerts, playing football, taking day trips to Paris and there I was at home, surrounded by four walls.

    I think that if I had a few friends it could have made a world of difference. I would not have felt a need to come onto this forum, although with all the recent changes in the org it was only a matter of when not if I found this website.

    I remember one time when all the youths in the congregation went to Friday night bowling - I had no idea this event happened until the following day, I worked with a brother in field service and he asked me "so Truthseeker, did you go bowling last night?" - I was livid to say the least - darn, that memory is still fresh in my mind.

    I remember a sister who came into the truth in her 20s, she was very active, loved sports and had to give up all her wordly friends. There was nothing organized in the congregation, everyone did their own thing with their own groups. I knew she wouldn't last long - her bible teacher even told me that she felt lonely. Within 2 years she was gone.

    An elder in my own hall gave a local needs talk about how the youth in the congregation feel like they aren't wanted and even took comments. After the meeting, a brother who flat our ignored me and excluded me from every social event there was invited me to a video evening. I was so desperate for company I went, but again, it was a let down, because there is no shared history there and you feel like an outcast. It was a token gesture, like eating crumbs falling from the rich man's table.

  • jamiebowers
    jamiebowers

    Geez, I didn't even know that jws had "get togethers" that didn't involve the whole congregation. There were a few in my first congregation, and I remember one congregation picnic in the second one. I don't recall ever having been invited to a jw's home for dinner or anything like that. I read all the time here how pioneers got special treatment, but I never did. I don't know why, because I was extremely popular in the world from grade school on up.

  • Lozhasleft
    Lozhasleft

    I remember watching the cliques...I couldnt believe they could exist in the 'truth' but they did and they were harder to deal with in there....

    Loz x

  • wobble
    wobble

    No, not a hint of interest in us.

    Not that I care, but for six months after we left nobody knew why we had left, so what happened then ?

    We had an invite to dinner from a dear friend, who is still a very active witness ,a couple of weeks ago, we were the only guests, she did not mention the religion once, and dropped us a line a few days later to say what a pleasure the evening was, and how good it was to see us well and happy.

    I think she just wants to stay friends whatever, and that is really lovely.

    But it seems the rest of our old congo. did not give a flying f**k whether we had died or not.

    Wobble

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