Would Jesus Really Have Observed Passover?

by cameo-d 27 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    Would Jesus really have participated in observing a Passover ceremony which honored Moses and the mass murder of Egyptians?

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    Therefore, say to the Israelites: 'I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the yoke of the Egyptians. I will free you from being slaves to them, and I will redeem you with an outstretched arm and with mighty acts of judgment.
    This is how you are to eat it: with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand. Eat it in haste; it is the LORD's Passover. 12 "On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn—both men and animals—and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am the LORD. 13 The blood will be a sign for you on the houses where you are; and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. No destructive plague will touch you when I strike Egypt.
    "This is a day you are to commemorate; for the generations to come you shall celebrate it as a festival to the LORD -a lasting ordinance. 15 For seven days you are to eat bread made without yeast. On the first day remove the yeast from your houses, for whoever eats anything with yeast in it from the first day through the seventh must be cut off from Israel. 16 On the first day hold a sacred assembly, and another one on the seventh day. Do no work at all on these days, except to prepare food for everyone to eat—that is all you may do. 17 "Celebrate the Feast of Unleavened Bread, because it was on this very day that I brought your divisions out of Egypt. Celebrate this day as a lasting ordinance for the generations to come.
  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?"

    18He replied, "Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, 'The Teacher says: My appointed time is near. I am going to celebrate the Passover with my disciples at your house.' " 19So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them and prepared the Passover.
  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    Baruch atah Adonai Eloheinu Melech ha-olam hamotzi lechem min ha-aretz

    While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body ."

    Baruch Ata Adonai, Eloheinu melech ha'olam borey peri hagafen

    Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

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  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

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    Therefore, say to the Israelites: 'I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the yoke of the Egyptians. I will free you from being slaves to them, and I will redeem you with an outstretched arm and with mighty acts of judgment.

    The scriptures report that the Israelites weren't having that much trouble in their lives till Moses and Aaron showed up harassing the Pharoah and then life got hard because Pharoah took it out on them. Pharoah decided that if they were encouraging Moses, then they must have too much time on their hands. Fact is, the Israelites did not much like Moses and Aaron and did not appreciate what those two were doing by making such a disturbance.

    "they met Moses and Aaron coming to meet them, as they were going out from Pharao, and they said to them "May God see you and judge, because you have made our smell loathesome before Pharao, and before his attendants, to put a sword into his hands to kill us."

    Exodus 5: 20-21

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

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    This is how you are to eat it: with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand. Eat it in haste; it is the LORD's Passover. 12 "On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn—both men and animals—and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am the LORD. 13 The blood will be a sign for you on the houses where you are; and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. No destructive plague will touch you when I strike Egypt.

    First line translated: "eat with your shoes on, standing up and your car keys in your hand." In other words, "eat in a hurry, on the fly, and get ready to run."

    You always have to be ready to run when you are up to something evil. It reminds of the kids who used to throw cherry bombs in the dumpster at the Dairy Queen. You never saw 'who-dunnit'....you only heard the tires squealing as they made the turn out the exit.

    The striking down of every firstborn, eh? There's a little more detail to that story in the Midrash. 'On Pesach night, all those who died were firstborn, either from the mother's side or fathers side. Both male and female. Many of those who died were not obviously known as firstborn and it was believed to be a revelation of adultery.'

    In my opinion, this appears to be a way to justify what could have simply been random murder.

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    What the heck is in the cup, Burn? It looks like a snake! Maybe it's a subliminal message to show that the drink is poison.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    The scriptures report that the Israelites weren't having that much trouble in their lives till Moses and Aaron showed up harassing the Pharoah and then life got hard because Pharoah took it out on them.

    Then you are reading the wrong scriptures.

    Exodus 2:23

    During that long period, the king of Egypt died. The Israelites groaned in their slavery and cried out, and their cry for help because of their slavery went up to God.

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  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    What the heck is in the cup, Burn? It looks like a snake! Maybe it's a subliminal message to show that the drink is poison.

    No. My mistake. It's the Apostle John, not Jesus, blessing the cup in that picture.

    There is a tradition that at Ephesus, John was given a cup of poisoned wine to drink. When he blessed it, the poison departed from the wine in the form of a snake.

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  • TTWSYF
    TTWSYF

    Hi all

    I just came upon this post and wow~Holy cow Cameo-D. You actually believe this crap that you're saying against the wisdom of God! Sure, the slaves were having a good old time building Pharoes' cities. Yes, they had to eat things that were bitter for rememberance of the truth. And if you don't like Jesus's look in a painting, then I gotta ask, What did you think of the Ark of the Covenant design? Paganism?!

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