Saul had fallen out of favor with God, so Saul was sup-
posed to be tormented for having done that
I do not know whose comment this is... but I must disagree with it. It directly contradicts the MERCY of the MOST Holy One of Israel... to say that someone "was supposed to be" tormented... for falling out of favor with God. That denotes that the MOST Holy One of Israel PUNISHES those who aren't on His "side," and that is a lie. How do we KNOW? Look to Christ. True, Judas apparently was "tormented" for a hot second... but WHO tormented him... Christ? Or his own conscience?
To me, "allowing a place for the Devil" is a bit different than someone sending their evil spirit upon me.
Indeed, it is! The one making the ALLOWANCE... is responsible (vs. the MOST Holy One of Israel being responsible as a result of having SENT such a spirit).
God does not HAVE a "bad" Spirit... or any "bad spirits." Well, then, I am simply not understanding since the scripture says "an evil spirit from the LORD" (or "Jehovah'sbad spirit came to be on Saul")
Again, "This is one of those instances where the "lying pen" of the "scribes" has done its thing... " Same for 1 Samuel 16:14. Please see Jeremiah 8:8
if Jehovah knows that his holy spirit is the only thing protecting Saul's mind, and he knows that if he removes his spirit that inevitably a "bad spirit" will enter into Saul's mind, yet he goes ahead and does it anyway....what is the practical difference between that and actually sending a real bad spirit himself?
Hmmm... let's put it into today's terms. I have two sons, both play high school football. The older one is a quarterback; the younger, a running back. The older one had been the high school "hero" for, say, the past two years. The younger one, however, is starting to make a name for himself as one who can get the ball across the goal line. Where the fans USED to cheer for the older brother, they now cheer for the younger. Because he is going off to college soon, I buy the older son a car. Now, he gets to drive it, but it's in my name (as is the insurance). Saturday night rolls around and it's the big game: rather than being on his "game," and playing up to his potential, older son plays a lousy game (he has let his jealousy for the younger son become a distraction). Younger son, however, makes an amazing catch (that older son had intended him to miss) and wins the game for the team. The crowd goes wild!
Rather than congratulating his younger brother, older brother goes out and gets drunk (helps him "deal" with his "feelings"); however, I REFUSE to let him drive the car... with the insurance... that is in MY name. So... I take the keys. Well, rather than stopping and thinking about WHY he's lost the keys to his car... and perhaps "changing" his "attitude"... older son sulks even more... SO much so that, eventually, he steals the neighbors c... gets in a wreck... and ends up losing an eye!! Now, he can't play football at all anymore. And he goes downhill from there. Eventually, his jealousy becomes SO bad... that he tries to kill his younger brother.
Now, I ask you: is it MY fault that older son lost his eye? Is it my fault he got in a wreck? But, wait... I TOOK HIS CAR KEYS. Surely, it's MY fault that he didn't change his attitude so as to get his keys back, and thus, it was MY fault he stole the neighbor's car... and thus MY fault he got in a wreck... and so, based on your theory... MY fault that he lost his eye. Right?
, the other a bit of a screw up and somewhat jealous of the other son. Both are adults. The younger one does pretty much what I ask him to: did well in school, has a fairly good job, pays his bills, etc. The other son did okay in school, too, and so I helped him buy a car. It is in both of our names, with me as the primary. So, he goes to work, like a good guy, but AFTER work he goes out drinking, so that he ends up getting a couple few DUIs, scrapes some cars, etc. Then, he loses his license. Now, I am responsible for the CAR he's driving (insurance goes with the CAR, which is in MY name)... so, I take my keys BACK. Rather than apologizing, ceasing his drinking binges... and PROVING to me that he can be trusted with my car (and no, buying a car is not an option cause he's got no license)... he decides to go out and steals someone else's keys ('cause he NEEDS a car, don't he?)... mean that I am responsible???? You're kidding, right?
Think about what you are accusing the MOST Holy One of Israel of doing... of being responsible for.
C'mon, folks. With minimal exception, earthling man is responsible for what has happened to earthling man. There are just those who can't/won't/don't admit it.
I bid you all peace.
A slave of Christ,