Thx dgp. I throw that out at him every once in awhile. When I really want to piss him off, I sing it!
Interesting Thought about JW's and People Outside the Org
by Mrs. Witness 16 Replies latest social relationships
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dgp
May I suggest that you use "I'm too sexy for your love...?"
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Saoirse
Saoirse, I agree, but try telling that to a JW who thinks that if he leaves the religion, he has no other choice but to sink into depravity. To him, all JW's are good people (even when I point out to him that there are some questionable people in his congo) and all worldly people are not to be trusted (even me--his wife).
I don't even know what to tell you to do about someone who is that blinded. Even when I was a JW, I could see that there were hypocrites in the congregation. It must be difficult at times to live with someone like that. I'm sorry you have to deal with that.
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life is to short
That a huge fight my husband and I have. I can point out to him more people on the outside of the org who are better, kinder, live better lives, have less health problems, depression way less depression etc. My husband comes back Satan is not testing the world like he is us that is why they are happier. Satan has them so why would he need to make their lives hard. Satan only make life hard for JW's.
Oh MY GOD my head is just swimming.
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firemanmedic
Hard-core indoctrination ? Protection from the ORG? Sounds like the Mob......There are good people , and Bad People. No one sticks a gun to anyones head and makes them be a JW, Baptist, or Scientology or what ever.This is a ROTTEN WORLD for the most part from the view I see. None of us on this board, NONE ! knows if a certain individual is good enough to be on this earth except GOD.I have met really nice people who were into child porn.People I would have never judged that way.They will ALL have to answer for anything, any secrets, or conduct not seen by us. Being a JW doesn't say , I AM IN !!
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TD
I think it comes down to why people choose to adhere to a moral standard
A. Some do entirely out of fear of being punished.
B. Some do because they feel it is the right way to live. (i.e. Beneficial to themselves and others.)
JW's and kindred groups can't seem to comprehend choice 'B'
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wantstoleave
I understand his thinking, having been raised a witness myself. We are taught that everyone but Jw's are bad and not to be trusted. So those of us who leave still have that issue of trust, at least initially anyway. We no longer have 'the protection' of Jehovah, so we feel scared. We try to make a life for ourselves in 'the world', yet don't trust anyone. It has been drummed into us our entire lives that noone but Jehovah's people are worthy, that they don't have our best interests at heart...so they will lie to us and cheat us at every opportunity. We fear life itself. I am a new 'fader' and don't mind saying how scared I am. Everything I've ever known has been turned upside down and I feel confused, trapped and frightened.
If your husband were to tell an elder or witness how he's feeling, they would tell him 'well done, you have a conscience'. My dad always said that to me, that he liked how my conscience was 'working' and how loyal I was to Jehovah. We are brought up to hear how loving a God he is, yet die hard Jw's are scared of his wrath.
I really doubt your husband will change his thinking after all these years. He sees the elders as the gateway to Jehovah, so he will continue to run to them when he does something he sees as wrong in Jehovah's eyes. It's not something that can be easily untrained unfortunately. I think leaving the organisation as compared to other religions, is very difficult because there is so much inner guilt from years of indoctrinating.
I hope things get better for you both...it may be a long road, but I hope your husband too comes to some kind of peace of mind