A waiting attidue on God is a good thing AE...as we search his word of truth. A waiting attiude on the GB, who proclaim themselves to be God's channel is a sin- as not acting out of faith for what we beleive is right, according to Paul is in itself a sin.
Watchtower rape scans--by request!
by Atlantis 20 Replies latest members adult
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Atlantis
AE, Are you aware that at one time (in the 70's) a WT-approved divorce was only for fornication between a man and woman- not same-sex animal?
"While both homosexuality and bestiality are disgusting perversions, in the case ofneither one is the marriage tie broken." Watchtower-1972-January-1-p.32 http://imgurl.filetac.com/img/59696980.jpg N.
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jamiebowers
Sometimes we clearly see things arent right but having a waiting attitude helps, although dont get me wrong, im sure it damaged alot of marrigaes, and i dont agree, but if we see things are wrong then we can still deal with them. If that had been me and my hubby had yuk..gross, but yer if he had then i would have written to the gb and said that its still the same definition as fornication and that although i will be obedient and wait for them to clarify this I would at the same time be sperating from him or definately not having sexual contact...yuk
You could separate, but you would not have been free to remarry until the GB got off its collective ass and made the right decision. I lost my family, friends, home and most of my possessions at 24 years of age, because I simply refused to stalk my dangerously mentally ill husband to prove adultery on his part. I got out with my life, but there is no way that you or anyone else can justify the meddling of the GB into situations like that. That's why your comments make me so angry, AE! I was afraid for my very life and so were the doctors and judges who locked my jw husband up, but the WB&TS just couldn't understand why I just wanted away from him. Your flip answers are the same thing.
...either way it would have worked out because if a man is gay he wouldnt want his wife...thankfully for her :)
No, not always...a lot of gay men use their wives as a cover or their sexuality.
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BabaYaga
Thank you Atlantis!
And heavy ~sigh~ regarding the WT's horrific attitudes.
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Atlantis
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BabaYaga:
Thank you! You are very welcome!
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nykid
Those scans were really informative. I was shocked to read those positions taken by the Society and almost nothing shocks me. It's truly sad that anyone would be so cold and callous toward a dehumanizing crime such as rape.
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AudeSapere
if its RAPE then its nothing to do with a conscience....shes the victim!!!!!!!!
I keenly remember instances and conversations where it was strongly debated if the woman was really the victim or if she (secretly) wanted it.
For the sexually repressed and phobic GB, a scream was the ONLY way to determine if it was rape. If the woman lost her life because the perpetrator killed her to silence her, so be it. She's just a woman and will likely have a chance at resurrection - especially if died while showing her faithfulness to Jehovah.
Remember, the GB views most women as seductresses who prey on weak men. What man can resist such a woman? This is the same reasoning many pedophiles use. The 8 year old girl seduced me. She wanted me to touch her... Sick twisted resonings.
At least there is some change there.
btw - I remember that WT article from 1972. I was 12. Can you imagine feeling scripturally obligated to stay married (and render due~!! ) to someone who is having sex with animals? I feel suffocatated just *thinking* about it.
-Aude.
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LouBelle
This to and fro doctrine on rape from the GB fucked up many lives!
They will surely have a lot to answer for - they are sick in the bloody head. They truly are white washed graves - full of rotting flesh and all that is vile and yet painted white on the outside to make themselves look desirable. Whore of babylon!
They are the disgusting thing that stands in the place of god and it sickens me to know that there are millions of people that hang on every word that comes forth from their polluted mouths.
Makes me livid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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VIII
I can't add more to what AudeSapere and LouBelle said.
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BadBettie
Holy shyte! [sorry but] I think I just realised someone I know got DF'ed for not screaming. [it was before the 80s]
That is damn maddening and sad. Can't expand on it in the open but wow... That persons whole life has been absolute garbage because of it. They never got help and have had addiction/abuse issues since.
If it was a few years later maybe she would have fared a lot better and that is scary.