Non-Existent First Century GB / Council Quotes from Old Publications?

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  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    There we go...right out of the horse's mouth.

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    And of course Freddy Franz hated the idea more than leprosy.

    And of course Freddy would not have had to face it if he had not misled everybody from Knorr on down into the ludicrous 1975 false prophecy.

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    Using the Bible to prove there was a 1st Century Governing Body? Fail.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Nowhere, including Acts 15, coupled with Acts 16:4-5 does the Bible indicate a governing body. Reading all of Acts 15 shows it was the entire cong meeting together to settle problems caused by the Jeru cong. Nowhere again is any such get together even hinted at.

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    One of the easiest ways to realize that this "Governing Body came from the early Christians" is BS, is this:

    NOBODY - NOBODY in the "sacred JW hierarchy of the faithful and discreet slave" had the slightest notion of a governing body for near onto 100 years.

    It only came about because of the obvious need to reign in an increasingly delusional Freddy Franz. Franz himself hated it and said so.

    So, would it not follow that if this were such an obvious scriptural idea - it would have been the natural organizational method since day one of the Watchtower? Instead of having to be torturously pieced together like Frankenstein's Monster post 1975?

    And, wouldn't it have naturally come up as a solution to the transition from Russell to Rutherford, or from Rutherford to Knorr/Franz? No, it didn't - the "Governing Body" came up cut from whole cloth to cover the damage being done by Franz and his false prophecy.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Who has the WTS taught is the "governing body" from 1879 to 1971 and from 1971 to today?

    *** w50 8/15 p. 251 par. 8 Answering the Foes of His Government ***The Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society, with main offices in Brooklyn, New York, acts advisorily as the governing body and servant of Jehovah’s witnesses in all lands.

    *** w50 1/1 pp. 10-11 par. 2 Reviewing the Past Year’s Work World-wide ***The Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society, the governing body of Jehovah’s witnesses, has pointed out through its publications that the kingdom of heaven was established in 1914, and it has shown in its writings how the signs of the present day are fulfilling prophecy in proof of the establishment of that kingdom.

    *** w71 2/1 p. 81 par. 26 Proclaiming Good News World Wide ***This governing body is closely associated with the board of anointed directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania.

    *** w71 12/15 p. 755 A Governing Body as Different from a Legal Corporation ***At this meeting a question came up and was discussed from the platform. It was as to what the relationship is between the Board of Directors of the Society as a legal corporation and the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Christian witnesses. Are they the same, identical, or are they different? Such questions were due to the fact that it has been published in print that the Governing Body of Jehovah’s witnesses at headquarters is associated with the Board of Directors of the said Society.

    *** w95 5/15 p. 22 par. 8 Part 2—Flashes of Light—Great and Small ***For many years the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses was synonymous with the board of directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, and matters were largely in the hands of its president.

    *** w95 5/15 p. 22 par. 8 Part 2—Flashes of Light—Great and Small ***For many years the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses was synonymous with the board of directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, and matters were largely in the hands of its president.

    *** w71 12/15 p. 755 A Governing Body as Different from a Legal Corporation ***At this meeting a question came up and was discussed from the platform. It was as to what the relationship is between the Board of Directors of the Society as a legal corporation and the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Christian witnesses. Are they the same, identical, or are they different? Such questions were due to the fact that it has been published in print that the Governing Body of Jehovah’s witnesses at headquarters is associated with the Board of Directors of the said Society.

    *** w95 5/15 p. 22 par. 8 Part 2—Flashes of Light—Great and Small ***For many years the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses was synonymous with the board of directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, and matters were largely in the hands of its president.

    *** w95 5/15 p. 22 par. 8 Part 2—Flashes of Light—Great and Small ***For many years the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses was synonymous with the board of directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, and matters were largely in the hands of its president.

    *** w50 8/15 p. 251 par. 8 Answering the Foes of His Government ***The Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society, with main offices in Brooklyn, New York, acts advisorily as the governing body and servant of Jehovah’s witnesses in all lands.

    *** w50 1/1 pp. 10-11 par. 2 Reviewing the Past Year’s Work World-wide ***The Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society, the governing body of Jehovah’s witnesses, has pointed out through its publications that the kingdom of heaven was established in 1914, and it has shown in its writings how the signs of the present day are fulfilling prophecy in proof of the establishment of that kingdom.

    *** w71 2/1 p. 81 par. 26 Proclaiming Good News World Wide ***This governing body is closely associated with the board of anointed directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania.

    *** w71 12/15 p. 755 A Governing Body as Different from a Legal Corporation ***At this meeting a question came up and was discussed from the platform. It was as to what the relationship is between the Board of Directors of the Society as a legal corporation and the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Christian witnesses. Are they the same, identical, or are they different? Such questions were due to the fact that it has been published in print that the Governing Body of Jehovah’s witnesses at headquarters is associated with the Board of Directors of the said Society.

    *** w95 5/15 p. 22 par. 8 Part 2—Flashes of Light—Great and Small ***For many years the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses was synonymous with the board of directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, and matters were largely in the hands of its president.

    *** w95 5/15 p. 22 par. 8 Part 2—Flashes of Light—Great and Small ***For many years the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses was synonymous with the board of directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, and matters were largely in the hands of its president.

    *** w71 12/15 p. 755 A Governing Body as Different from a Legal Corporation ***At this meeting a question came up and was discussed from the platform. It was as to what the relationship is between the Board of Directors of the Society as a legal corporation and the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Christian witnesses. Are they the same, identical, or are they different? Such questions were due to the fact that it has been published in print that the Governing Body of Jehovah’s witnesses at headquarters is associated with the Board of Directors of the said Society.

    *** w95 5/15 p. 22 par. 8 Part 2—Flashes of Light—Great and Small ***For many years the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses was synonymous with the board of directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, and matters were largely in the hands of its president.

    *** w95 5/15 p. 22 par. 8 Part 2—Flashes of Light—Great and Small ***For many years the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses was synonymous with the board of directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, and matters were largely in the hands of its president.

    ** w71 12/15 p. 760 A Governing Body as Different from a Legal Corporation ***

    How did this governing body make its appearance in recent times? Evidently under the direction of Jehovah God and his Son Jesus Christ. According to the facts available, the governing body became associated with the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. C. T. Russell was patently of that governing body back there in the last quarter of the nineteenth century.

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    Exactly the point, Blondie.

    The "faithful and discreet slave" itself has had no consistent idea who the "faithful and discreet slave" or the "governing body" was down through the approximate century of the Watchtower Society.

    How can they be the "slave" or "governing body" when they can't even get this entity right from one decade to the next?

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