Interesting quote on jewish law...

by mkr32208 21 Replies latest watchtower medical

  • mkr32208
    mkr32208
    But Jewish law, just like secular legal theory, is filled with judicial loopholes. A major one is that for the sake of saving a life, a Jew is allowed to break just about any commandment. For example, if a Jew is injured on the Sabbath, he is certainly allowed to go to the hospital even though he normally doesn't drive on Saturday. Life or death matters trump all but a handful of commandments. And as far as organ donation goes, two biblical verses are trotted out to quell the uneasiness among Jewish donors. "You shall surely heal" (Exodus 21:19) and "You shall not stand by the blood of your neighbor" (Leviticus 19:16).

    Interesting...

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Where did you get the quote?

  • John Doe
    John Doe

    Jews are dummies.

  • The Almighty Homer
    The Almighty Homer

    The JWS have misinterpreted many of the Mosaic laws, particularly since the giving of ones blood to save

    a life of anther of the flock should be allowed since it may be a matter of life or death.

    This just one of many screw ups the JWS have come out with over the years.

    Power in the hands of the incompetent is not a good thing.

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Look at our own laws. Say, our driving laws. Sign says "55". Who can go ov.er "55"? Ambulances, police, fire? Yes. Why? To save a life.

    Very few laws are absolute. The Watchtower Society tries to convince it's followers that "no blood" is an absolute ultimatum. They are full of it. They say "no blood" all the while allowing fractions and "current therapy."

    Back to Jewish law discussion.

    Judaism has long understood Leviticus 18:5 to mean that those who keep God's decrees and laws will live by them [not die by them].1

    The Jewish faith strictly exempts people on "the [health] danger list" from compliance with God's laws necessary to preserve their life or health.2

    This principle can be seen throughout the Jewish religion in:

    1) the Talmud's (oral tradition and judicial decisions, first written down in about 200 AD) allowing sick or pregnant people to violate the dietary laws if necessary to preserve their health or life;3

    2) exempting the sick from Yom Kippur's fasting requirements;4

    3) the Jewish saying "pikkiah nefesh doheh Shabbot - [rescuing a] life in danger takes precedence over the Sabbath";5 and

    4) the Talmud's account that King David was permitted to violate the Sabbath's laws in order to help his ill child.6

    Islamic interpretation of the Biblical passages against eating blood is similar to Judaism.

    Many scholars theorize that the Muslim people started in the 22nd century BC when Isaac and Ishmael, Abraham's sons, parted.7

    In fact, Jehovah's Witnesses also recognize the common history between Judaism and Islam.8

    Interestingly, the Islamic religion also forbids eating blood9 but recognizes exceptions to food laws for those unable to comply.10

    Like the Jewish Talmud, the Islamic Sunnah in Chapter 5, verse 4 says that the prohibited food may be eaten in cases of extreme hunger, but if any is forced by hunger with no inclination to transgression, God is indeed oft-forgiving and most merciful.

    Thus, both Judaism and Islam permit the breaking of God's dietary laws to save a life.

    Is it a coincidence that these two distinct religions, originated by the same ancestor 22 millennia before Christ, would share similar beliefs?

    In answering the Jehovah's Witness 1 Samuel argument, a Jew or Muslim might state that these soldiers were hungry, not ill or starving-to-death, when they broke the commandment. In either event, Jehovah God was, as Islam says (supra), "most merciful and kind" as none were sanctioned.

    Since both of these ancient religions contain an "in order to save a life" exception, this is not an argument that originated in modern times like the Jehovah's Witnesses want to try to state..

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Here are some good resources if you want...

    Rabbi Dr. Immanuel Jakobovits, JEWISH MEDICAL ETHICS - A COMPARATIVE AND HISTORICAL STUDY OF THE JEWISH RELIGIOUS ATTITUDE TO MEDICINE AND ITS PRACTICE 45 (Block Publishing Company 1959) (Preservation of human life takes precedence over God's laws with the exception of idolatry, murder, and incest).

    Daniel Eisenburg, M.D., Mandate to Heal: What is the Role of the Physician in Jewish Law?, available at http://www.aish.com/societyWork/work/The_Mandate_to_Heal.asp

    The Holy Quron, S.5 A.3, 278-279, (Printing rights reserved for King Fahd Holy Qur-an Printing Complex) ( "Forbidden to you (for food) Are: dead meat, blood, The flesh of swine, and that On which has been invoked The name of other than Allah, That which hath been Killed by stangling, Or a violent blow, Or by headlong fall, Or being gored to death; That which has been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; Unless you were able to slaughter it (in due form) That which has been sacrificed on stone (alters); (Forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling With arrows; that is impiety.")

    The Holy Quron, (Printing rights reserved for King Fahd Holy Qur-an Printing Complex) ("O ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you As it was prescribed To those before you, That ye may (learn) Self-restraint. (Fasting) for a fixed Number of days; But if any of you is ill, Or on a journey, The prescribed number (Should be made up) From days later. For those who can do it.")

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    The basic principle (which even the Synoptic Gospels allude to with the argument of the sheep falling into a pit on the sabbath) is best known in rabbinical casuistics as piquach nephesh (or pikuach nefesh; if you use the different transliterations you will find more references in a google search); and yes the equivalent exists in Islamic shari'a. The WT extrapolations on the banning of blood tragically misunderstand the cultural context.

    For instance: http://www.jtsa.edu/Conservative_Judaism/JTS_Torah_Commentary/Ki_Tissa_Tze_Ulmad_.xml

  • The Almighty Homer
    The Almighty Homer

    Interesting information Skeeter1

    The leaders of the WTS. should have read the bible completely and throughly.

  • Robdar
    Robdar
    Jews are dummies

    Wow, you're a clever one. Your dazzling wit has blinded me.

  • John Doe
    John Doe
    Wow, you're a clever one. Your dazzling wit has blinded me.

    I am, aren't I.

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