MSNBC interview: rabbi shmuley boteach advised MJ to return to JWs

by chickpea 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • chickpea

    just heard this interview
    by this self-help rabbi guru
    that he spent a period of
    time trying to convince
    michael jackson to stop
    poisoning himself with
    pharmaceuticals and explained
    that he was NOT trying to convert
    MJ to judaism, as it is not a
    proseylitizing religion but urged him>>>>

    "to return to the jehovah's witness church
    because it kept him humble"

    does this not reveal the scope
    of the work the ex-JW community has
    yet to do, in terms of educating
    the public about the cult aspect
    of the b0rg?

  • Psychotic Parrot
    Psychotic Parrot

    Rabbi Schmuley is a knob anyway.

  • Guest with Questions
    Guest with Questions

    So true. When I told two Christians that my mom had left the witnesses after 37 years they said "That's nice".

    Nice?! So many people have no idea about the witness organization. We do need to educate the public.

  • The Berean
    The Berean

    To be fair and balanced:

    It would have been better for Michael Jackson to be Jewish, Jehovah's Witness, or anything else if it would have kept him alive ...

  • chickpea

    point taken berean....

    it is speculative to declare that his life was negatively
    influenced and impacted by association with a cultish
    religion that would have persistently insisted he make
    the meetings, go out in service, attend conventions and
    suppress his inclinations to respond to his muse,
    which has proven to be singular in a generation...

    unless he left a statement to that effect, there
    is no way to be certain how he felt about the b0rg...
    certainly his father's tyranny played a role as well

    repeatedly, celebrities have succumbed to the
    pressure of their status, regardless of their former
    or current religious affiliations.... seems almost
    worthy of hazardous duty pay to be in the spotlight.....

  • shamus100

    He should have been a JW. People like that need religion in theyre lives.

  • WuzLovesDubs

    Um guys? Look around the JW religion. How many people who are IN THERE are doing drugs BECAUSE theyare in there and cant handle it? MJ was a perfectionist and never thought he was good enough at any level of himself even in his performances he was always wondering if he did well. No matter how much adoration or praise he still doubted. How could he possibly have lived up to the standards set by the Governing Body and by GOD?

    Nope...dont think it would have been good AT ALL for him to be back in that high control group again. He STILL would have been addicted to drugs just to cope with THAT added pressure and responsibility.

  • villabolo

    "Religion is the opiate of the masses"

    I strongly disagree that Michael Jackson would have been better of in the JWs in exchange for his drug problem. That's like saying that it's better to be a Nazi than an alcoholic. Which is worse, the admitedly demoralizing problems of drug addiction or being clean and a member of a psychopathic and genocidal religion?

  • jamiebowers

    I found thisYouTube video on the same subject yesterday. When I commented that many exjws lose their bearings upon leaving due to the fears of armageddon and the fact that jws are set up for failure, because it's pounded into their heads that they will fail if not a jw, he removed my comment.

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    I agree with Shamus, Chickpea and Berean. There are those within my old congregation to whom I would NEVER tell the things I know, because they are so mentally fragile I suspect they would spiral out of control.

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