I did, but I have never told my story, I could not tell you my story here because it would be too revealing as to who I am. If I did not experience like what I have experienced, I would probably avoid those damn apostate sites like this site! Well, I think it is a blessing for me to join this site because I have learned alot!
Did you come here on JWD/JWN because of congregation injustice?
by asilentone 14 Replies latest jw experiences
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allelsefails
I have experienced a lot of injustice, but that is not what sent me here. I always thought "these are imperfect men, Ishouldn't be mad at Jehovah". It was when I examined doctrine that I went running. You know - actually read and studied the bible all on my own. This will probably give me away to any spies, but I don't care: A married elder in my cong wrote pornographic e-mails to a married sister telling her what he wanted to do to her (very explicit) We agreed as a BOE to remove him, but when the CO talked to us a few weeks later he suggested we be lenient (he never read what was written). And everyone immediately changed their vote (except me). The CO said to me "Is there anything we could help you with to make this unanimous?" I said no one who read the things he wrote could think he was qualified. Of course no one cared about my scriptural objection just the COs statement. A few years later this same elder hit on my wife and offered to run away with her when she left me. Then he told my sister (who is a bit "busty" - I admit uncomfortably) that if she was too warm in the hall she should take her shirt off! Again I recommended his removal and the other elders decided there was a problem with me. I didn't act fast enough. The CO (different one) did finally recommend his removal after my wife and sister made a stink. That's enough for now, but I hope you know your not alone. Injustice is built into any legalistic system, just like the Pharisees of Jesus' day. LOVE is the identifier of God's people. Not politics and legalistic Garbage. The JWs got 1 thing right: Religion is a anare and a racket.
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fokyc
YES, but it didn't help solve the problem or injustice, although it certainly helped me understand what a
bunch of liars our local elders are. I have told my story in part to a few posters and for a while it was in
my resume.
It is now over 4 years and the local cong elders are still lying about procedures laid down by the
branch and/or Governing body and I have it all in writing, if they lie about this sort of thing; how much
more so will they lie about other things.
fokyc
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WTWizard
Any hounders that try to exploit my celibacy and keep it going, telling me to just meet men, so they can use me to start the Second Dark Ages for the Washtowel Babble and Crap Slaveholdery deserve to have me do apostasy and blow the lid on their little secrets. In fact, they ought to be thankful that I don't have ways of mass-distributing apostate flyers to every door in the territory the evening before a Waste of Paper Distribution Campaign, so they will get zero results and stagnant boasting session attendance.
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The Berean
If I might expand slightly as to one fatal flaw in organizational command I have observed during the past fifty years.
First, allow me too say that I believe in "Community Responsibility." When an individual person who has been appointed to shepherd the "flock" perpetrates an injustice ... everyone in the chain shares the blame. From the rank who appointed such an individual and choose to ignor misconduct to the file who enable such to occur and do not rise up.
For those giving the Old Testament credibility, the Nation of Isreal was convicted as a entire group of allowing corruption to continue. Proverbs 11: 1 talks about a "cheating pair of scales" being something detestable to God. That is the reason that I am here. It is the bias toward those in prominent positions, the double standard of enforcement when those taking the lead commit serious error and it is kept hidden, it is the nepotism that I am sure many of us recognize, and it is because, as a sub-culture, JWs kill their wounded.
Everyone associated is culpible. Certainly a "faithful and discreet slave" would only act according to what they are being told to do by those they are serving ... and a slave would not blame ANYONE else when something goes wrong and keep his house and head. And why should the sheep watch apathetically as fellow members of the flock are eaten by wolves and not demand that the shepherds get out of their tents and "lay down their lives" for those they have been assigned to protect? It is my conclusion that Jws are led not by shepherds but by "hired hands." ( John 10:11-14)
That's it from my corner ....
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no more kool aid
Berean, I can't wait for my husband to read your post, it's what he has been saying for many years, that there is something majorly wrong with the organization. For me, injustice within the congregation, was something that I thought was rather unique to my family and my locale. When I read of everyone else's experience it actually made me see that it was nothing personal.
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keyser soze
There was no specific incident that I can think of, but I found the whole df'ing process to be unjust. Not just the shunning, but the process was so arbitrary and inconsistent. I would see people df'd, and then never miss a meeting. Others would somehow skate by for similar transgressions. It was all contingent on a group of imperfect men determining how repentant the person was. It didn't seem right to me that they could make a decision that could affect another person's life so deeply.
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LockedChaos
Me?????
I came for the pie......................
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cameo-d
I have a friend who is JW and I could not understand why someone who had given so many years of labor building churches and money (on the pretense it was actually going to help needy people)...would be so neglected in a time of need.
I know what I have seen with other church orgs. that when someone can no longer drive, many others call and offer rides not only to church but to grocery store and other events.
I have seen people from other churches voluntarily go and visit the sick. And they are never empty handed. They bring casseroles and offer to run errands. They make sure that someone, especially with no family, has essential things that they need.
I saw none of this with the JWs. They do NOT take care of their own. If you are not able to get to the Hall on your own speed AND go out in service, you are no longer needed or wanted. Nor cared about.
JWs step over the sick and the dying and just keep going.
Party loyalty is all that matters.
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Shalimar
I disagree. There are people who do bad & unjust things in EVERY religion. & I have been around long enough to see Jehovah weed some out.(48 years) We need to look at it as a test of our faith & try to not get disheartened. They will EVENTUALLY "get" theirs. A C.O. once said "Look around, Brothers & Sisters. Look at all your friends & family. Not every one sitting here are you going to see in the New System" That was an eye opener for me & I stopped looking at the Elders,Pioneers & perfect families each Hall has in a whole new light. From then on, I counted myself just as good as all the others. A wise person once said "A church (hall) is not a museum for saints.....it is a hospital for sinners. More profound words were never spoken.