Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 04-12-09 WT Study (PROMOTE HAPPINESS)

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    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 04-12-09 WT Study (February 15, 2009, pages 6-10)(PROMOTE HAPPINESS)Review comments will be in red
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    How JESUS' SAYINGS PROMOTE HAPPINESS
    "[Jesus] went up into the mountain; and ... his disciples came to him; and he ... began teaching them.”-MATT. 5:1, 2.


    OPENING COMMENTS

    So shortly after the memorial, jws are told that only anointed jws are "sons of God" and that the rest will have to wait 1,000 years to become "sons of God." That God is only their grandfather, but Jesus is their "father" not their brother as in the case of the anointed jws?

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    *** w95 8/1 p. 13 par. 19 Jehovah—A God Who Teaches ***Even though the other sheep are not directly included among the “sons” spoken of at Isaiah 54:13, they are blessed with being taught by Jehovah. Therefore, they properly address God as “Father” because he will, in effect, be their Grandfather through the “Eternal Father,” Jesus Christ.—Matthew 6:9; Isaiah 9:6.

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    *** w53 4/15 p. 249 par. 10 Jehovah: Husband, Father and Teacher ***With all prospects of life resting on God’s provisions, other Christians of good will, associated with those who are in the new covenant, properly address him as their Father, because he is to be their Grandfather through the Everlasting Father, Christ Jesus.—John 10:16, NW; Isa. 9:6, AS.

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    *** Worldwide Security chap. 20 p. 169 pars. 18-19 A Happy Human Family Under a New Fatherhood ***
    The second Adam, however, has become a life-giving spirit. In this capacity he can fulfill Isaiah’s prophecy and become the “Eternal Father” to the first Adam’s offspring, whom he repurchases and adopts for the purpose of bestowing perfect human life on a paradise earth. In such a way the heavenly Father of Jesus Christ will become the heavenly Grandfather of the restored human family.

    START OF ARTICLE

    Q 1, 2. (a) Under what circumstances did Jesus give his Sermon on the Mount? (b) How did Jesus begin his discourse?


    IT IS the year 31 C.E. Jesus briefly interrupts his preaching tour of Galilee to observe the Passover in Jerusalem. (John 5:1) Returning to Galilee,
    he prays all night for God's guidance in choosing 12 apostles. The next day a crowd gathers as Jesus heals the sick. With his disciples and others present, he sits down on a mountainside and begins teaching.--Matt. 4:23-5:2; Luke 6:12-19.

    Jesus prayed all night--does that mean that jws can give 1/2 hour prayers at conventions/assemblies? Long prayers will be discussed in a future
    article.


    2. Jesus starts his discourse--the Sermon on the Mount--by showing that happiness results from having a good relationship with God. (Read
    Matthew 5:1-12.) Happiness is 'a state of well-being ranging from contentment to intense joy.' The nine happinesses that Jesus pronounced
    highlight why Christians are happy, and these sayings are as beneficial today as they were nearly 2,000 years ago. Let us now consider each of
    them.

    'a state of well-being...' source of quote? I found it quoted here: http://erratic-flight.livejournal.com/

    Were there any "Christians" in Jesus lifetime? Could there be as long as the law was in force? When did "Christians" come to be in the Bible?

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    (Acts 11:26) 26 and, after he found him, he brought him to Antioch. It thus came about that for a whole year they gathered together with them in the congregation and taught quite a crowd, and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians.

    And according to the WTS, only jws are Christians, all others are "false" or "professed."

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    *** w96 2/15 p. 8 par. 1 We Have Reason to Cry Out for Joy ***
    YOU have likely noted that few people have real joy nowadays. Yet, as true Christians, Jehovah’s Witnesses have joy.

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    *** w64 1/1 p. 11 par. 12 They Listened to an Angel ***
    Similar action has been taken today against Christians in the nations of the earth that call themselves Christian. Religious leaders get just as fearful of the same message that true Christians, Jehovah’s witnesses, preach worldwide today.

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    *** w60 10/1 p. 592 par. 34 The Holy Bible—the Book by Jehovah’s Witnesses ***
    The truth becomes plain, therefore, that true Christians, true followers of Christ, must imitate him in being Jehovah’s witnesses. True Christians
    are Jehovah’s witnesses.

    "Those Conscious of Their Spiritual Need"

    Q 3. What does it mean to be conscious of our spiritual need?


    3. "Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them." (Matt. 5:3) "Those conscious of their
    spiritual need" realize that they are spiritually destitute and need God's mercy.

    and who are "spiritually destitute and need God's mercy"--all non jws

    can the "kingdom of the heavens" belong to non-anointed jws per the WTS?



    Q 4, 5. (a) Why are those conscious of their spiritual need happy? (b) How can our spiritual need be satisfied?

    4 Those conscious of their spiritual need are happy, "since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them." Accepting Jesus as the Messiah opened up for his early disciples the possibility of ruling with him in God's heavenly Kingdom. (Luke 22:28-30) Whether we personally hope to be a joint heir with Christ in heaven or we look forward to everlasting life in an earthly paradise under Kingdom rule, we can be happy if we are truly conscious of our spiritual need and are fully aware of our dependence on God.

    Does this mean that the non-anointed don't need to accept Jesus as the Messiah since there is no possibility of ruling with him in the heavens?

    The other sheep are presented the CARROT of everlasting life in an earthly paradise instead.

    dependence on God or the WTS/FDS/GB?

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    *** w06 5/15 p. 22 par. 8 Are You Prepared for Survival? ***
    Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah’s universal organization.

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    *** w61 2/15 p. 114 par. 19 Hold Fast Your Joy! ***
    Do you humbly acknowledge your entire dependence upon Jehovah for life and its blessings? Then you should also humbly acknowledge your
    dependence on his earthly organization today. There is no place of real safety outside God’s New World society
    .


    5. Not all are conscious of their spiritual need, for many lack faith and do not appreciate sacred things. (2 Thess. 3:1, 2; Heb. 12:16) Ways to
    satisfy our spiritual need include diligent study of the Bible, zealous activity in the disciple-making work, and regular presence at Christian
    meetings.--Matt. 28:19, 20; Heb. 10:23-25.

    many (non-jws) lack faith

    "zealous" activity in the "disciple-making" work--more than 1 hour a month and not without making converts

    "regular" prescence at Christian meetings--so how many is considered regular, how many can you miss and not be irregular?


    Mourners Who Are "Happy"

    Q 6. Who are "those who mourn," and why are they "happy"?


    6. "Happy are those who mourn, since they will be comforted." (Matt. 5:4) "Those who mourn" are the same kind of people as "those conscious of their spiritual need." They do not mourn in the sense of complaining about their lot in life. Their mourning is sadness over their own sinful state and the conditions existing because of human imperfection. Why are such mourners "happy"? Because they exercise faith in God and Christ and are
    comforted by having a good relationship with Jehovah.--John 3:36.

    are jws truly mourning over their own sinful state or seeing others outside the organization as worse than they are and soon to be destroyed forever?

    relationship with Jehovah--where is their relationship with Jesus?


    Q 7. How should we feel about Satan's world?

    7. Do we individually mourn because of the unrighteousness rampant in Satan's world? How do we really feel about what this world has to offer?
    The apostle John wrote: "Everything in the world--the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one's means of life--does not originate with the Father." (1 John 2: 16) But what if we sense that our own spirituality is being eroded by "the spirit of the world," the
    impelling force that dominates human society alienated from God? Then let us pray fervently, study God's Word, and seek the help of the elders. As we draw closer to Jehovah, we will "find comfort" for ourselves, regardless of what is causing us distress.--1 Cor. 2: 12; Ps. 119:52; Jas. 5:14, 15.

    Do jws really mourn over the unrighteous in Satan's world? How many are ready to give up television, DVDs, movies, music, violent sports, etc.?

    human society alienated from God--all non-jws

    closer to Jehovah--closer to Jesus?


    How Happy "the Mild-Tempered Ones"!


    Q 8, 9. What does it mean to be mild-tempered, and why are mild-tempered ones happy?

    8. "Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.” (Matt. 5:5) "Mildness of temper," or meekness, does not suggest weakness or hypocritical gentleness. (1 Tim. 6:11) If we are mild-tempered, we will display meekness by doing Jehovah's will and accepting his guidance. Mildness of temper will also be evident in the way we deal with fellow believers and others. Such meekness harmonizes with the apostle Paul's counsel.--Read Romans 12:17-19.

    doing God's will, seek the help of the elders or the WTS?

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    *** w84 5/15 p. 16 par. 9 Empowered With Strength Beyond Normal ***Loyal Witnesses do not lean toward democratic attitudes and procedures. They are awake to the fact that they serve in a theocratic organization, an organization in which God’s will is ascertained and then carried out.

    fellow believers--only jws


    9. Why are the mild-tempered ones happy? Because "they will inherit the earth," said mild-tempered Jesus. He is the principal Inheritor of the earth. (Ps. 2:8; Matt. 11:29; Heb. 2:8, 9) However, mild-tempered "joint heirs with Christ" share in his inheritance of the earth. (Rom. 8:16, 17) In the earthly realm of Jesus' Kingdom, many other meek ones will enjoy everlasting life.--Ps. 37:10, 11.

    Notice that "meek ones will enjoy everlasting life" CARROT not share in the inheritance. Do you get the idea that Jesus did not have in mind a secondary group of Christians that would not go to heaven?

    Q 10. How may a lack of mildness affect our privileges of service and our relationship with others?

    10. Like Jesus, we should be mild-tempered. But what if we are known for having a belligerent spirit? Such an aggressive and hostile attitude may cause people to shy away from us. If we are brothers desiring to have responsibilities in the congregation, this trait disqualifies us. (1 Tim. 3:1, 3) Paul told Titus to keep reminding Christians in Crete "not to be belligerent, to be reasonable, exhibiting all mildness toward all men." (Titus 3:1, 2) What a blessing such mildness is to others!

    belligerent spirit...aggressive and hostile attitude--I have had 4 elders scream at me, and believe me I had not done anything to provoke it and had people standing by that witnessed it. And this did not disqualify them from having responsibilities in the congregation. I knew another that yelled and swore at his jw employees and retained his responsibilities.


    They Hunger for "Righteousness"

    Q 11-13. (a) What does it mean to hunger and thirst for righteousness? (b) How are those hungering and thirsting for righteousness "filled"?


    11. "Happy are those hungering and thirsting for righteousness! since they will be filled." (Matt. 5:6) The "righteousness" that Jesus had in mind is
    the quality of doing what is right by conforming to God's will and commandments. The psalmist said that he was "crushed with longing" for God's righteous judicial decisions. (Ps. 119:20) Do we prize righteousness so much that we hunger and thirst for it?

    God's or the WTS will and commandments?

    12. Jesus said that those hungering and thirsting for righteousness would be happy because they would be "filled," or fully satisfied. This became
    possible after Pentecost 33 C.E., for Jehovah's holy spirit then began to "give the world convincing evidence concerning ... righteousness." (John 16:8 By means of the holy spirit, God inspired men to compile the Christian Greek Scriptures, which are so beneficial "for disciplining in
    righteousness." (2 Tim. 3:16) God's spirit also enables us to "put on the new personality which was created according to God's will in true
    righteousness." (Eph. 4:24) Is it not comforting to know that those who repentantly seek forgiveness of their sins on the basis of Jesus' ransom
    sacrifice can attain a righteous standing with God?--Read Romans 3:23, 24.

    Who do jws go to to seek forgiveness or have it determined they are repentant? How do the elders determine that God has forgiven and
    individual; how does God communicate that to them?

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    *** w06 11/15 p. 30 par. 21 Always Accept Jehovah’s Discipline ***Although he has prayed and believes that God has forgiven him, he should seek the help of an elder so that such a sin does not become habitual.

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    *** w96 4/15 p. 29 Questions From Readers ***
    As in the case of the man in ancient Corinth, when a gross sinner refuses to repent, he has to be disfellowshipped. If he later repents and produces works befitting repentance, divine forgiveness is possible. (Acts 26:20) In such a situation, the Scriptures give the elders reason to believe that Jehovah has indeed forgiven the wrongdoer.

    13 If we have an earthly hope, our hunger and thirst for righteousness will be fully satisfied when we enjoy everlasting life under righteous conditions on earth. Meanwhile, let us be determined to live in harmony with Jehovah's standards. Jesus said: "Keep on ... seeking first the kingdom and [God's] righteousness." (Matt. 6:33) Doing that will fill our hands with godly work and our heart with true happiness.--1 Cor. 15:58.

    CARROT--earthly hope...enjoy everlasting life....on earth

    God's or WTS standards? Cannot know God's standards except through WT organization.


    *** w75 6/15 p. 378 par. 14 Looking to the Future with Confidence ***However, in order to have a confident outlook for the future we must also begin now to adjust our lives and thoughts to the standards that Jehovah God is revealing to us through his Word and organization.


    Why "the Merciful" Are Happy

    Q 14, 15. How can we show mercy, and why are "the merciful" happy?


    14. “Happy are the merciful, since they will be shown mercy.” (Matt. 5:7) "The merciful" are moved by compassion and pity for others. Jesus
    miraculously relieved the suffering of many because he had pity for them. (Matt. 14:14) Mercy is manifested in a judicial sense when people forgive those who transgress against them, just as Jehovah mercifully forgives repentant ones. (EX. 34:6, 7; Ps. 103:10) We can show mercy in that way and by our kind words and deeds that bring relief to disadvantaged individuals. A fine way to show mercy is to share Bible truths with others. Moved with pity for a crowd, Jesus "started to teach them many things." --Mark 6:34.

    Mercy in the judicial sense?
    What deeds do jws show to "disadvantaged" individuals, jws and non-jws. Do jws do deeds towards non-jws? Did Jesus only share Bible truths?



    15. We have reason to agree with Jesus' statement: "Happy are the merciful, since they will be shown mercy." If we treat others mercifully, they are likely to respond in kind. We may find that the mercy we have shown to others will triumph over any adverse judgment that God might otherwise bring to bear against us when we are brought into judgment. (Jas. 2:13) Forgiveness of sins and eternal life are only for the merciful.--Matt. 6: 15.

    What though if we aren't shown mercy in kind, should we stop showing mercy?

    Should we only show mercy because we expect something in return from God?

    CARROT--eternal life



    Why "the Pure in Heart" Are Happy

    Q 16. What does it mean to be "pure in heart," and how do those possessing that quality "see God"?


    16. "Happy are the pure in heart, since they will see God." (Matt. 5:8 If we are "pure in heart," purity will be evident in our affections, desires, and
    motives. We will display "love out of a clean heart." (1 Tim. 1:5) Being inwardly clean, we will "see God." This does not necessarily mean seeing
    Jehovah literally, for "no man may see [God] and yet live." (Ex. 33:20) Since he perfectly reflected God's personality, however, Jesus could say:
    "He that has seen me has seen the Father also." (John 14:7-9) As Jehovah's worshippers on earth, we can "see God" by observing him act in our behalf. (Job 42:5) For anointed Christians, seeing God reaches its apex when they are resurrected to spirit life and actually see their heavenly Father.--1 John 3:2.

    purity is evident in which WT judgment?

    Not wanting people to be confused and think that the people Jesus was talking about were going to rule with him in heaven and literally see God,

    the WTS puts in a disclaimer.

    Jehovah's worshippers--only jws


    Q 17. Being pure in heart will have what effect on us?

    17. Because a pure heart is morally and spiritually clean, it does not dwell on things that are unclean in Jehovah's eyes. (1 Chron. 28:9; lsa. 52:11)
    If we are pure in heart, what we say and do will have the mark of purity, and there will be nothing hypocritical about our service to Jehovah.

    What things does the WTS consider unclean....pornography, music, movies, DVDs, sports, masturbation, swearing, tabloid newspapers.....

    nothing hypocritical--except in how molesters are handled in the congregation, and wife abusers.


    "The Peaceable" Become Sons of God

    Q 18, 19. How do "the peaceable" conduct themselves?


    18. "Happy are the peaceable, since they will be called 'sons of God."' (Matt. 5:9) "The peaceable" are identified by what they will do and by what they will not do. If we are the kind of people whom Jesus had in mind, we are peaceable and 'do not render injury for injury to anyone.' Instead, we 'always pursue what is good toward others.'--1 Thess. 5:15.

    sons of God--only anointed, the rest may be adopted by the end of the 1,000 year reign. Until then they are neither Christ's brothers nor is God their Father except through Jesus.


    19. The Greek term rendered "peaceable" at Matthew 5:9 literally means "peacemakers." To be included among the peaceable, we must
    actively promote peace. Peacemakers do not do anything that 'separates those familiar with one another.' (Prov. 16:28) As the peaceable, we
    take positive steps to "pursue peace with all people."-Heb. 12:14.

    how do jws actively promote peace through their doctrine of disfellowshipping, forbidding parents to talk to children and vice versa, or to grandchildren, brothers and sisters? Isn't that separating those familiar with one another?

    Q 20. Who are now "sons of God," and who else will eventually become God's offspring?

    20. The peaceable are happy because "they will be called 'sons of God.' " Faithful anointed Christians have been adopted by Jehovah and are "sons of God." They already have an intimate relationship with Jehovah as his children because they exercise faith in Christ and wholeheartedly worship "the God of love and of peace." (2 Cor. 13:11; John 1:12) What about Jesus' peaceable "other sheep"? They will have Jesus as their "Eternal Father" during his Millennial Reign, but at its end he will subject himself to Jehovah and they will become children of God in a complete sense.--John 10:16; Isa. 9:6; Rom. 8:21; 1 Cor. 15: 27,28.

    Yes, only anointed jws have been adopted by God and are sons of God. Yes, only they have an intimated relationship with God as his children.

    The other sheep only have Jesus as a father, and become children of God at the end of the 1,000 year reign. Can you imagine telling non-jws that?



    Q 21. How will we act if we are "living by spirit"?

    21. If we are "living by spirit," peaceableness will be one of our qualities that is readily seen by others. We will not be "stirring up competition with
    one another" or "provoking ... each other." (Gal. 5:22-26; New International Version) Instead, we endeavor to be "peaceable with all
    men."--Rom.12:18.

    stirring up competiton--for "privileges" in the congregation


    Happy Though Persecuted!

    Q 22-24. (a) What accounts for the happiness of those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake? (b) What will we consider in the next two study articles?


    22. "Happy are those who have been persecuted for righteousness' sake, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them. 11 (Matt. 5:10)
    Expanding on this, Jesus added: "Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against
    you for my sake. Rejoice and leap for joy, since your reward is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you."--Matt. 5:11, 12.

    23. Like God's prophets of old, Christians expect to be reproached, persecuted, and lyingly spoken against--all "for righteousness' sake." By
    faithfully enduring such tests, however, we have the satisfaction of pleasing and honoring Jehovah. (1 Pet. 2:19-21) Our suffering cannot diminish our delight in serving Jehovah now or in the future. It cannot lessen either the happiness of ruling with Christ in the heavenly Kingdom or the joy of being granted everlasting life as one of the earthly subjects of that government. Such blessings provide evidence of God's favor, benevolence, and generosity.

    24. There is much more to learn from the Sermon on the Mount. Various lessons are considered in the next two study articles. Let us see how we
    might apply those sayings of Jesus Christ.

    jws to expect to be persecuted...even if they have brought it on themselves by unchristian behavior.

    jws believe that only they are persecuted for serving God.


    http://www.forum18.org/

    April 2009
    UZBEKISTAN: "Religious movements are trying to destabilise Uzbekistan"

    By Mushfig Bayram, Forum 18 News Service <http://www.forum18.org>

    Uzbekistan continues to harass and fine Christians, Muslims and Jehovah's Witnesses exercising their freedom of thought, conscience or belief,
    Forum 18 News Service has found. In one recent case 13 Baptists have been fined the extremely large sum of 50 times the minimum monthly
    salary, for meeting for worship.
    The verdict, which has been seen by Forum 18, claims that it follows police "anti-terror" operations. The judge who imposed the fine has refused to discuss the case with Forum 18. And in a continuation of the current official actions against people with religious literature, two Baptists carrying religious literature have been arrested on the capital Tashkent's Metro, questioned at a police station by the most senior police officer responsible for Metro security, and will be charged for carrying the literature. Attempting to justify the police action, a local official in the capital told Forum 18 that "religious movements are trying to destabilise Uzbekistan." However, he did not explain how violating fundamental human rights stabilises Uzbekistan. [read more...]


    CARROT--granted everlasting life


    How Would You Answer?

    Why are "those conscious of their spiritual need" happy?
    What accounts for the happiness of "the mild-tempered ones"?
    Why are Christians happy even though they are persecuted?
    Which happiness pronounced by Jesus especially impresses you?


    CONCLUDING COMMENTS

    Does this article build up a relationship with Christ? While using his words, the focus in on having a relationship with God. The focus is on the
    anointed being God's sons but the rest having to wait 1,000 years for the same privilege.

    Next week, "Let Jesus' Sayings Affect Your Attitude." Highlight, comment on long prayers.


    Love, Blondie

  • Mattieu
    Mattieu

    Hi Blondie,

    A big personal thank you for your research and preparing these comments. I always used to get to work on a Monday morning and sit down with a coffee and eagerly read your comments and the feedback from other members.

    Now as a newbie, I am sitting down at home poring over them whilst my wife is going through the w/t at the k/hall right now, ironic, I enjoy you conducting it so much more!

    In regards to your personal experience:

    I have had 4 elders scream at me, and believe me I had not done anything to provoke it and had people standing by that witnessed it

    Some may find that hard to fathom, but I have witnessed the same thing and other experiences that you walk away thinking that no one would believe me if I told them what I saw, I still shake my head at what I have seen.

    Keep up the excellent work, Mattieu.

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    Thanks Blondie,

    I think it's sad that Writing thought that Jesus did such a poor job in his introduction of the Sermon on the Mount that they need to come through verse-by-verse and clarify errors and omissions in his statements. They may as well scrap everything Jesus said and re-script all his teachings so that he would get it right... in which case, Jesus would have given the Sermon on the Mount clean-shaven and wearing a polyester suit.

    While a consideration of Jesus words could promote happiness, the Watchtower Corporation explanation promotes unhappiness.

    Jesus says: Happy are those who ..., since they will ....

    Watchtower adds heaps of "fine print": But that only applies to a very small group now or in the near future. Some of it may apply to the Secondary Sheeples in, like, over a thousand years from now. Ha, who are we kidding? Most of the Secondary Sheeples aren't preaching enough or being good enough now to even survive the big A. Okay Sheeples, just eat this BS WT study and act happy!

    B the X

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    Great job Blondie, and great observation Billy.

    OK, I'm off to climb a hill, watch the sun rise and give Jesus praise and worship.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Merciful? Trying to take advantage of one's inability to attract the opposite sex by doing all they could to keep it that way to get a Value Destroyer Training School member? They call that "merciful"??????? And yet one is to shut up if they have been sexually abused as children, or know of someone that has been abused as children, by another witless.

    Or, their endless enforcement of stupid rules. Pretty soon, we are going to see the one-towel rule at the a$$emblies being enforced, along with not using candy machines that are in perfect working order. There is a rule for every possible situation at those events, which to me does not constitute mercy. Nor does the endless hounding to get out in field circus, or to attend boasting sessions, or believe everything the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger puts out, even if we can prove them wrong.

  • LUKEWARM
    LUKEWARM

    Thanks Blondie - appreciate your effort in putting this up each week.

    Q 8, 9. What does it mean to be mild-tempered, and why are mild-tempered ones happy?
    8. "Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth." (Matt. 5:5) "Mildness of temper," or meekness, does not suggest weakness or hypocritical gentleness. (1 Tim. 6:11) If we are mild-tempered, we will display meekness by doing Jehovah's will and accepting his guidance. Mildness of temper will also be evident in the way we deal with fellow believers and others. Such meekness harmonizes with the apostle Paul's counsel.--Read Romans 12:17-19.

    9. Why are the mild-tempered ones happy? Because "they will inherit the earth," said mild-tempered Jesus. He is the principal Inheritor of the earth. (Ps. 2:8; Matt. 11:29; Heb. 2:8, 9) However, mild-tempered "joint heirs with Christ" share in his inheritance of the earth. (Rom. 8:16, 17) In the earthly realm of Jesus' Kingdom, many other meek ones will enjoy everlasting life.--Ps. 37:10, 11.

    Until recently, I had no idea that the WTS official position on "they will inherit the earth" was not referring to righteous being rewarded with paradise earth. I used Matthew 5:5 in field service all the time to "prove" that meek ones are not going to heaven but will "inherit the earth"....

    This post shattered that dream for me....

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/165871/1/How-do-mainstream-Christians-interpret-the-live-forever-on-Earth-scriptures

    Funny how Jesus said NOTHING about paradise earth. How could that be considering it features so prominently in WTS theology?

    Billy, I could not have said it better myself:

    I think it's sad that Writing thought that Jesus did such a poor job in his introduction of the Sermon on the Mount that they need to come through verse-by-verse and clarify errors and omissions in his statements. They may as well scrap everything Jesus said and re-script all his teachings so that he would get it right... in which case, Jesus would have given the Sermon on the Mount clean-shaven and wearing a polyester suit.
  • mostlydead
    mostlydead

    Yes, only anointed jws have been adopted by God and are sons of God. Yes, only they have an intimated relationship with God as his children.

    The other sheep only have Jesus as a father, and become children of God at the end of the 1,000 year reign.

    But heaven knows, we can't have any relationship with Jesus. And they've just informed everyone that the great relationship you thought you had with Jehovah? well, it's all in your imagination. Just get that thought right out of your head.

    Their legalistic treatment of the spiritual needs of their non-anointed flock rivals that of the Pharisees.

  • Pistoff
    Pistoff

    3. "Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them." (Matt. 5:3) "Those conscious of their spiritual need" realize that they are spiritually destitute and need God's mercy.

    Well, not if you don’t believe it you aren’t. I agree with the Who song:

    “I don’t need to be forgiven.”

    I can no longer buy the argument that God is willing to torture billions of people because of the time line of his little argument with Satan. I do think that one needs a connection to the spiritual side of life; I refuse to allow out of touch bureaucrats in Brooklyn any input into what I think is spiritual.

    4 Those conscious of their spiritual need are happy, "since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them." Accepting Jesus as the Messiah opened up for his early disciples the possibility of ruling with him in God's heavenly Kingdom. (Luke 22:28-30) Whether we personally hope to be a joint heir with Christ in heaven or we look forward to everlasting life in an earthly paradise under Kingdom rule, we can be happy if we are truly conscious of our spiritual need and are fully aware of our dependence on God.

    I never realized before the venal aspect of the GB’s lusting after the power of the heavenly calling; I was always more interested in Jesus’ teachings than the cosmic aspects of his death and resurrection. To hear the GB exclude 99.9% of the fellowship from direct benefit by Jesus is so disheartening; I don’t know how I missed it for so long.

    7. Do we individually mourn because of the unrighteousness rampant in Satan's world? How do we really feel about what this world has to offer? The apostle John wrote: "Everything in the world the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one's means of life does not originate with the Father." (1 John 2: 16) But what if we sense that our own spirituality is being eroded by "the spirit of the world," the impelling force that dominates human society alienated from God? Then let us pray fervently, study God's Word, and seek the help of the elders. As we draw closer to Jehovah, we will "find comfort" for ourselves, regardless of what is causing us distress. 1 Cor. 2: 12; Ps. 119:52; Jas. 5:14, 15.

    I personally mourn over the children whose lives have been ruined by the policies of the WT regarding child sexual abuse; the ones who have died refusing blood; the wasted time and diminished opportunities of those who were shamed into avoiding college, including myself. I mourn the families split apart by disfellowshiping; I mourn the parents and grandparents decision to shun their own children and grandchildren, especially when the only obstacle is official status, not that the df’d are stealing, drug users, etc.

    I also mourn the mental health of those who tried to embrace all the doublespeak and doublethink the WT is responsible for.

    Q 18, 19. How do "the peaceable" conduct themselves?

    18. "Happy are the peaceable, since they will be called 'sons of God."' (Matt. 5:9) "The peaceable" are identified by what they will do and by what they will not do. If we are the kind of people whom Jesus had in mind, we are peaceable and 'do not render injury for injury to anyone.' Instead, we 'always pursue what is good toward others.' 1 Thess. 5:15.

    Really, a person can take just so much tortured syntax and application. Does the term peaceable really need definition??? Do people really ever ask themselves, How should I conduct myself? Wouldn’t they just say, am I doing the right thing?

    23. Like God's prophets of old, Christians expect to be reproached, persecuted, and lyingly spoken against all "for righteousness' sake." By faithfully enduring such tests, however, we have the satisfaction of pleasing and honoring Jehovah. (1 Pet. 2:19-21) Our suffering cannot diminish our delight in serving Jehovah now or in the future. It cannot lessen either the happiness of ruling with Christ in the heavenly Kingdom or the joy of being granted everlasting life as one of the earthly subjects of that government. Such blessings provide evidence of God's favor, benevolence, and generosity.

    Is it even possible to discuss ANY aspect of Jesus’ teaching without AGAIN calling attention to the false split between earthly hope and heavenly!!?? How is it relevant even in the tortured world of witness logic? Are the GB SO incredibly paranoid and lacking in self esteem that they must constantly point out the difference?

    I am again reading The Lost Gospel: The Story of Q by Burton Mack. Not all agree with him, but the book is an interesting take on how the sayings of Jesus were likely built up in layers: the sage sayings first, then later to be added were sayings that would be of use to a growing body of followers experiencing resistance, and finally added were judgements of the Pharisees (not a strong social force in Jesus' day) and references to a second coming. I have read this idea before; the idea that the separate layers are suggested by the fact that some of the sayings make sense in the social context of later times in the first century.

    THANKS Blondie.

    P

  • SnakesInTheTower
    SnakesInTheTower

    Blondie...good job as always..something you said made me think of some things that happened when I was an elder....and the hypocrisy.

    As a former elder, I observed on multiple occasions in multiple congregations where elders swore at each other. In the congo that I was first appointed an elder, it was a mixed body, old and young, black and white. Black PO. Two other elders also black. The three of them were the minority of the group. The secretary was an older white guy nearing retirement. KNOWN RACIST.... how did we know? Because he and his wife were members of a Sportsman's type club that until very recently implicitly did not allow blacks to be sponsored by current members.

    One of the black elders went off on this elder and the BOE in general in a meeting in the library. Very loudly dropped the F bomb several times. Was and still is an elder. The secretary was eventually relieved of his duties and is an elder in title only. That only because the current CO is married to a sister of another race so is a little more sensitive to that kind of prejudice.

    There is no room whatsoever for use of foul language let alone by men that are supposed to be setting examples.

    One elder in a different congregation came after me repeatedly with false accusations to either keep me from reappointment or to get me deleted (he was eventually successful as I allowed him to get away with it ..so I could start my fade). On two occasions in the elders meetings he kept pushing and pushing me to the point that it took one or two elders to hold me down and not come across the conference table. One time his own son (the PO) had to hold my arm and warn his own father... what a joke.

    This article emphasizes to me realize how hypocritical the whole elder arrangement is (of course, the whole Borg is hypocritical). Holy Spirit has nothing to do with elder appointments.... it is all politics.

    Snakes ()

  • marcopolo
    marcopolo

    hello Blondie your post Comments are very excellent , continua so.. hugs

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