Howdy from a long time lurker

by Cadellin 54 Replies latest jw friends

  • Spike Tassel
    Spike Tassel

    Isaac, you should love your Rebecca. But since you won't, then I see it's up to me. You always did want Esau to have the blessing didn't you? Alas, Jacob knew to listen to her mother.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    WT Vassal said:

    Isaac, you should love your Rebecca. But since you won't, then I see it's up to me. You always did want Esau to have the blessing didn't you? Alas, Jacob knew to listen to her mother.

    My reply: I do not have a Rebecca. Reniaa is sure not a Rebecca. She would possibly be one of the supportive spouses of one of the religious leaders of Jesus day. I had no choice who got the blessing- Jacob or Esau...but it turned out great that Esau did. God knew what he was doing. Jacob listened to his mother. I listen to my Father- Jesus. You listen to your illegitamate mom- the GB....Reniaa speaks oin support of them but is simply a castaway from the cult that never made it.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    So what is going on between you 2 spike? Is it mutual or is it you prusuing her and she is npot interested in you. You called her loveable on one thread and you sent he a flower on this one. I guess you can't get dfed for what you do with her since you have an invalid baptism anyway.

  • Spike Tassel
    Spike Tassel

    Isaac, you've been following us both around, so if you haven't figured out the clues by now, you may never.

    You remind me of my dad's words after my mum divorced him:— I know her just as poorly now as when I first met her.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    No WT vassal, I havent followed you around...more like I have stumbled onto you hitting on her. I only know of those 2 clues I stumbled onto while reading a post. Although I still do not undersatand how the worloveable could apply to her...more like nauseating.

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    Cadellin!How is it going?

  • Cadellin
    Cadellin

    Mouthy! Thank you for asking! Wow--seems my introductory thread has initiated an extremely cryptic hi-jacking...I'm curious as to what's going on with Spike and Isaac...Anyway, since you asked, um--about the same. My slow fade is progressing. I start graduate school in the fall (hooray). I'd love to tell you more but I still need to keep a low profile. Very excited about that. School, not the low profile. Still on antidepressants, still trying to face my fears. I'm just taking it one day at a time.

    You're so sweet to ask. How are YOU???

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Cadellin, I apoligize for my part in that. This was your thread...about your situation...sorry

  • Quirky1
    Quirky1

    Welcome Cadellin!!

    Quirky

  • Cadellin
    Cadellin

    Renaai:

    shame to lose your faith in Jehovah over imperfect publications and the creation book is an old one and could only reflect the evolution knowledge at the time, selective quoting happens if someone says something, they have to accept it will be quoted even if they have said it against their own ultimate beliefs on a subject.

    Thank you for sharing your concern. First of all, let me say, I really enjoy the undaunted feistiness that you express in your posts. You're right, it would be a shame to lose faith in God over imperfect publications. That's not what happened with me. It wasn't the imperfect publications, it was everything they sprung from. The Creation book isn't considered outdated by the organisation, not like the old one it replaced. The last special Awake that dealt exclusively with evolution was September 2006 and it referred readers to the Creation book for more information. Furthermore, the quoting isn't just selective, it's symptomatic of the fundamental misunderstanding of evolution that permeates just about everything the Society prints on the matter.

    Admittedly, evolution is a tough subject. You mention that scientists don't agree and change their minds, that Darwin's own words wouldn't be recogizeable today. What I've found is that while scientists might disagree on certain aspects or details, they sure as heck don't on the overall picture. For example, anthropologists differ as to whether certain stone tools were used by late australopithecines or by early H. erectus. But they all agree that the australopithecids were bipedal and contributory to the Homo lineage. They all agree that they lived 2 to 4 millions years ago. They all agree that they predated--though overlapped--with early Homo species. They all agree that one or more of them were ancestral to us.

    I've come to think of truth as a Vinn diagram. Experts may disagree on certain things but its where all the circles overlap--where they all agree--that you're likely to find what's what. And its true, science does change--that's the great thing about it. It's self correcting. Ideas may come and go, but ideas supported by a preponderance of the evidence come and stay.

    And, Ren, you should read Origin of Species. It's not particularly dry or tough to get through. The core of Darwin's idea--that species are shaped by natural forces--has remained true. Much of what he said is still right on. His genius is that he was working without the benefit of a knowledge of Mendelian genetics--and without a high tech lab, like scientists today. He made the connection between environment, heredity and the nature of organisms all through observation and pure thought. Wow.

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