More Great News From California

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  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    Things just keep getting better out here:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-budget4-2009feb04,0,2705277.story

    California bond rating drops lower than any other state's

    Standard and Poor's cites the budget impasse and near-empty treasury. Meanwhile, interest groups show growing resistance to possible compromises by legislators on labor issues and taxes. By Jordan Rau and Patrick McGreevy
    February 4, 2009 Reporting from Sacramento -- California's bond rating was downgraded below that of every other state Tuesday by a major Wall Street rating agency, as lawmakers trying to resolve the state's financial problems faced growing resistance from powerful interest groups.

    Citing the state's prolonged budget impasse and its nearly empty treasury, Standard & Poor's lowered its rating on $46 billion in general obligation bonds, which investors usually consider one of the safest investments because they are backed by taxpayers.
    By reducing California's bonds from an "A-plus" to an "A" rating, the agency declared that it now considers even the debt of Louisiana -- whose credit had been ranked equally with California's -- a more trustworthy investment. Most states are rated "AA" or "AAA."

    "Our rating recognizes our view of the lack of political progress around the budget negotiations that we believe is serving to exacerbate the state's current and projected cash position," Standard & Poor's wrote in its report.

    Even as the agency chastised the state, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and legislative leaders intensified their negotiations to close the state's projected $42-billion budget gap. After a 90-minute afternoon meeting, Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) emerged from the governor's office and told reporters that "there are a few remaining issues."

    Senate minority leader Dave Cogdill (R-Modesto) cautioned that "we're still in discussions" and "it's too early to tell" when a deal might be reached.

    With buzz of a potential agreement growing in recent days, activists were taking aim at rank-and-file legislators, threatening to jeopardize the political careers of any who supported a deal the activists opposed.

    On Monday, the California Labor Federation summoned Democratic legislators to the union's office in Sacramento. There, they reiterated organized labor's opposition to Republican demands for changes in some workplace rules governing when employees take breaks and when they are paid overtime. About 30 lawmakers attended the meeting, said union officials and legislators.

    "It was an important meeting for us to have," said Assemblyman Alberto Torrico (D-Newark). "There were issues that labor was concerned about." He called the proposed changes "a nonstarter."

    Art Pulaski, executive secretary-treasurer of the federation, said in an interview that there were "no explicit or implied threats" of retaliation against Democrats during the meeting. But he said some lawmakers were elected only because of heavy support from labor. "I think that's less likely to happen if they vote" to weaken labor protections, he said.

    Chuck Mack, secretary-treasurer of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, Local 70, had been more blunt Friday in a conference call with reporters, saying unions "have to send a message to legislators that there are consequences to this."

    "If we've got to marshal our resources, if we've got to engage in recalls, then we are going to have to do that," Mack said.

    The California Teachers Assn., another union that plays a critical role in helping Democrats get elected, launched a statewide TV campaign this week against cuts in education money that the ads maintained "could permanently increase class sizes."

    On the Republican side, Jon Fleischman, a conservative blogger and state party official, proposed Sunday that the party censure any legislator who votes for higher taxes. His will be considered Feb. 20 at a party convention in Sacramento, he said.

    "In just one day, I have already heard from almost 200 state central committee members expressing support," Fleischman wrote Tuesday on his blog, www.flashreport.org.

    The "John and Ken Show," a Los Angeles radio talk show, posted on its website photos of the GOP legislators who have not publicly reaffirmed their opposition to taxes. The photos showed just the legislators' heads -- on stakes.

    The Legislature's two minority leaders, Cogdill and Assemblyman Mike Villines of Clovis, were among those whose disembodied heads were pictured. Along with the photos was the admonition that conservatives "tell them to stand firm on no new taxes or else!"

    Other skirmishes over the budget crisis continued Tuesday across Sacramento.

    Two state employee unions filed an appeal to overturn a court ruling that allows Schwarzenegger to furlough 238,000 state workers for two days a month. Union representatives said they did not expect a decision before the first furloughs take effect Friday.

    State Controller John Chiang, who joined the unions' position in the lawsuit, promised last week to implement Sacramento County Superior Court Judge Patrick Marlette's order. On Tuesday, he asked the judge to decide whether the ruling also applies to the 16,000 employees who work for such statewide elected officials as the controller, the attorney general and the lieutenant governor.

    The immediate impact of the credit downgrade is not clear. California cannot arbitrarily default on its debts, because the state Constitution requires that debt principal and interest be paid as promised. But a lower credit rating can lead investors to demand higher interest rates on new bonds the state sells for infrastructure projects, or short-term loans when the state is low on cash.

    Currently, financing for $4 billion in public works projects is on hold because the state lacks money and investors won't provide any more while California's fiscal issues remain unresolved.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Last night I read that 46 States are in a position of bankruptcy...they are broke...no money. The country is watching what happens in California now because that just may determine their own next move....sammieswife.

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    sammiee--I think you're right. They're waiting to see if CA gets bailed out... for the sake of long-term financial sustainability, however, I hope they aren't bailed out.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    What is funny is that the poorly run states are going to get bailout by the Federal government. Yes sir, if you live in a responsibly run state, you're going to pay for the fuckups in shittily run states like the People's Democratic Republic of Kalifornia. I thought Ahnold was supposed to fix the budget problems, apparently it proved to big a task for him.

    BTS

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    Last night I read that 46 States are in a position of bankruptc

    The Florida constitution has a balanced budget amendment. Theoretically have no choice but to balance the budget. I think they will cut spending drastically, they really have no choice.

    BTS

  • yknot
    yknot

    Okay I admit the last week I spent watching the history, discovery, and kids educational channels only....

    Can somebody link the story of which states are in jeopardy (and are they really or is this just a blown up money grab?)

    Thank you......Yknot

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    California isn't giving out tax refunds for, at least, 30 days.

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Sacramento -- Taxpayer groups and Republican lawmakers today criticized state Controller John Chiang's decision to delay income tax refund payments this month, a move that he's said is necessary to prevent the state from insolvency.

    Last month, Chiang warned that the state, which is facing a $42 billion budget gap over 18 months, would run out of cash sometime in February. And unless Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Legislature agree on a solution by Feb. 1, the controller would have to delay nearly $3.7 billion in payments scheduled to go out this month. Tax refunds would make up the bulk of those delays, at $1.9 billion.

    With the Feb. 1 deadline already passed, taxpayers who have filed their returns and were expecting refunds are out of luck.

    "This is the ultimate injustice ... this is taxpayers' money," said Assemblyman Roger Niello, R-Fair Oaks (Sacramento County).

    Assemblyman Ted Gaines, R-Roseville (Placer County), likened the tax refund delay to consumers not getting their change back after making a purchase at a retail store.

    But what they didn't mention was that according to California law, the state has until May 30 to send refund checks. It's just that in previous years, the state had enough cash on hand, so the controller's office typically would send out refund checks as soon as the paperwork was processed.

    This year, with the deepening recession drying up tax receipts, the Golden State's finances have fallen into crisis mode and the state simply doesn't have enough cash on hand in its general fund or other special funds to make all payments.

    Jon Coupal, president of Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, said he realizes the state doesn't have to send out refund checks until end of May. However, he argued that getting tax refund money into the hands of taxpayers would help stimulate the economy.

    So how much do California taxpayers receive in tax refunds?

    According to the Franchise Tax Board, in 2008, California taxpayers received about $10 million in tax refunds from the state with the average refund check at $853. Last month, the state returned about $290,000 to taxpayers as refunds. The average check was $461.

    Refund checks tend to get larger as the year progresses because wealthier taxpayers who typically get much larger refund checks file their taxes later, said John Barrett, a spokesman for the Franchise Tax Board.

    Posted By: Matthew Yi (Email) | February 02 2009 at 11:29 AM

    Listed Under: California Budget | Comments (4) : Post Comment

  • watson
    watson

    $10,000,000 seems awfully low for refunds in California. There are approximately 35 million people living there. (Accounted for...)

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Let me tell you about California's tax plan for corporations. I'm surprised that any business remains in the Golden State.

    Any business in California pays taxes on its and all affiliated companies "worldwide income", as apportioned to California. Most other states only tax that particular corporation on its US income, as apportioned to California.

    What is apportioned? It's a formula based on the companies' sales, property, and payroll both in the State of California and elsewhere. But....California then requires the taxpayer to "throw back" to CAlifornia any sales to states that do not have an income tax.

    The result is that a company in CAlifornia pays a boatload of taxes as opposed to anywhere else.

    THe employees that work for the California company also pay alot of money....both in personal income, sales, and property taxes.

    Taxation is part of the problem...

    And, so is California's state spending. Arnold (nor any governor) is not Jesus. He can not feed people out of nothing. Government programs need cut, and drastically cut.

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