BARF ALERT! Men of Faith, Charles T Russell....

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  • crazyblondeb
    crazyblondeb

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  • crazyblondeb
    crazyblondeb

    hell i can't figure out how to edit my post....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vh7NwdEo3E&feature=related

  • crazyblondeb
    crazyblondeb

    ok, here's another one, a mental health study on jw's...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdi1a_zZp5o&feature=related

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    We've Taken Over


    • From: Nomen Nescio <nobody@xxxxxxxxx>
    • Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:50:19 +0200 (CEST)

    This is a reminder to all our good friends. This newsgroup now
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    Antonio L. Santana of alt.religion.jehovahs-witn.

    Why Jehovah's Witnesses Have Mental Problems; part 1
    Jerry Bergman, Ph.D
    ABSTRACT

    A scientific literature review found that the rate of mental
    illness among Jehovah's Witnesses is considerably above average.
    The specific level found in the research varies partly because
    the extant research was on different populations and time
    periods. The major factors identified as either helpful or
    harmful to Witness mental health were discussed. Although
    persons with emotional problems tended to join the Witnesses,
    the Watchtower teachings and its subculture clearly adversely
    affected the mental health of those involved. The official
    Watchtower attitude on mental illness was also examined as were
    the common beliefs about the problem among Witnesses.

    The History Of The Watchtower Reveals the Sources of Mental
    Problems

    Jehovah's Witnesses were organized in the late 1800's by Charles
    Taze Russell, a second Adventist disappointed in the failed
    prophecies of his fellow religionists. He soon reinterpreted
    these prophesies and set his own new dates. He first taught the
    time of the end started in 1798 (latter changed to 1799), that
    Christ had returned invisibly in 1878 (latter changed to 1874),
    and that a new world wherein the righteous would dwell forever
    on a paradise Earth would begin in 1914.[1] With his father's
    fortune, Russell preached tirelessly, yet when he died only a
    small band of followers existed as a result of all his efforts.

    The second president, a lawyer named Rutherford, used his law
    background to create one confrontation after another with the
    state and almost everyone else including business, medicine and
    even religion. Soon Jehovah's Witnesses became infamous
    throughout the world for their legal clashes which often
    involved violence.[2] A fighter with no small legal skills,
    Rutherford recruited several other attorneys and the Watchtower
    soon had themselves positioned as martyrs. The small band of
    devoted--some would say fanatical--followers, they achieved
    something that no amount of money could buy: name recognition,
    and, at least in the legal profession, an admiration for their
    legal success and tenacity.

    The third president, N.H. Knorr, ruled from the 1950s to the
    1970s. He toned down their behavior and worked tirelessly to
    modify their public image from fanatics to quiet, determined
    Christians fearlessly going about their work preaching the good
    news of the Watchtower's kingdom. Pushing numerical growth to
    the exclusion of almost everything else including the health of
    individual Witnesses, his policies paid off. Except for the 1975
    fiasco, growth has usually been steady. 1975 was their third
    recent major prediction for Armageddon, the other two were 1914
    and 1925 which caused upward of one million people to eventually
    leave the sect.[3] They have carefully cultivated a public image
    of a God fearing devoted people, determined to ferret out God's
    truth from the scriptures and live their lives fully according
    to them. Behind this facade lies a nightmare which resulted in a
    rash of mental illness and social problems considerably higher
    than that found in virtually every American religion. The
    reasons for the Watchtower tragedy are complex and can only
    briefly be explored in this short review.


    The Scientific Research 

    Especially since the 1975 date (which was predicted to usher in
    God's kingdom on earth) failed, the numerous problems in the
    Watchtower congregations have received much mass media and
    scholarly attention. Most intensively studied problems include
    disfellowshipping, doctrinal disputes, and their recurring
    prophetic speculation failures. [4] Witness mental health issues
    have also been examined by many investigators.[5]

    The writer, as a former Witness for over twenty years, was
    extensively involved in various administrative levels of the
    organization. This gave him first hand access to information
    relating to most social and bureaucratic aspects of the
    Watchtower. He has also used his decade of extensive clinical
    experience with Witnesses and an extensive literature review as
    a basis for his evaluation. Outsiders have limited access to
    inside information, and for this reason are forced to rely on
    official publications, all of which are viewed by Witnesses as
    quasi-inspired.[6] The literature reveals eight academic studies
    which explored the problem of Witness mental illness. These will
    be briefly reviewed by year, the oldest first.


    The Rylander Study

    Swedish psychiatrist Dr. Rylander investigated a sample of
    conscientious objectors imprisoned in Sweden. Of the 135
    randomly selected cases, fully 126 were Witnesses. Of these 126,
    Rylander diagnosed 51 as neurotic, 42 psychotic, 32 as mentally
    retarded, and 5 as brain-damaged (some overlap exists because
    some cases were in two or more categories).[7] Diagnosis was
    made solely on the basis of behavior that was clearly
    pathological, such as irrational paranoia or severe long term
    depression, and not behavior that resulted from following
    Watchtower doctrine as non-social involvement with the non-
    Witnesses. Rylander also concluded from the subjects' medical
    records and his interviews that their pathological state was not
    uncommonly evident before conversion, but that the Watchtower's'
    influence was often detrimental to mental health, sometimes
    severely so.

    About four percent of the eligible armed service Swedish
    population were judged psychologically "unfit" for military
    services. The corresponding figure for Witnesses was twenty-one
    percent, or a rate five times greater. This was very close to
    the same ratio found by Spencer [8] whose diagnosis of
    "psychotic" or "neurotic" was made on the basis of mental
    hospital admission screening. Few of the cases in Rylander's
    study were marginal Witnesses, and most were actively involved
    in the Watchtower. Rylander concluded that many of those he
    studied lacked an education, job skills, emotional stability,
    and quality social relations. Unsatisfactory employment records
    often existed because of psychological deficiencies, lack of
    ability or immaturity. Rylander found that Witnesses committed
    "...a relatively large number of small crimes and other
    misdemeanors which generally resulted only in a fine...three
    [Witnesses] have been imprisoned for stealing or harboring of
    stolen property, and 36 have been fined for various offenses
    (traffic violations, drunkenness, unlawful selling of alcohol,
    poaching, unlawful entering, etc.)" [9]

    Neurotic symptoms commonly found in his sample included
    "feelings of discomfort, general anxiety, poor sleep habits,
    times of brooding over what they see as the meaninglessness of
    life, the wrongs they have suffered and the mistakes they have
    made." [10] Rylander noted that the Watchtower doctrine helped
    some adherents to explain "all of their problems in life, and
    has given them a satisfaction and calmness which has brought a
    measure of stability to their lives." [11]

    He also concluded that individual Witnesses tended to be
    burdened with a variety of serious concerns and often joined the
    sect in an effort to solve their many problems. Although the
    results of this study are not fully applicable to today's
    situation, many of his conclusions are still largely true. [12]
    A major difference between his sample and today is that the
    Witnesses are now more middle-class and less socially rejected.
    Many Witnesses, though, especially those living in developing
    nations, still experience many of the same problems that
    Rylander reported.
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  • Wordly Andre
    Wordly Andre

    Last month I ebay'd his book Enemies, oh gosh if you really want to find out what a nut job this guy was read it, it's right up there with Mein Kampf

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