The REAL state of the world (long)

by cynicus 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • larc
    larc

    Cynicus,

    I definitely want to look at the book you recommend. One I would suggest is, "Myth of Rich and Poor." written by two economists. (Don't have it handy and can't think of their names right now.) It is from their book that I got many of the statistics about declining product costs and improved standard of living. One of the authors is the chief economist for the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas. If you go to their web site, you can find his annual economic report for the last several years - very interesting reading.

    One thing I didn't mention to You Know, is that I have three close friends who are economists. I haven't even bothered them for resources yet, since I was able to find plenty of material on my own. I may ask them for a critique of LaRouch, since I can't find any. I think most economists don't even bother, because LaRouch is so far off from reality, a true fringe player. There are many critiques of LaRouch's politics, which are interesting reading.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    SS,

    Is it a group subconscious, is it a higher power, is it human nature?

    John Prine put it this way:

    The scientific nature
    of the ordinary man
    is to go on out
    and do the best he can

  • ballistic
    ballistic

    And the way it was...quote:

    Next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water
    temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to
    be....

    Here are some facts (yes facts) about the 1500s:

    Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May
    and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell
    so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.

    Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house
    had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men,
    then the women and finally the children-last of all the babies. By then the
    water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it-hence the saying,
    "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."

    Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath.
    It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the dogs, cats and
    other small animals (mice rats, and bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained
    it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the
    roof-hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs." There was nothing to
    stop things from falling into the house.
    This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings
    could really mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a
    sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds
    came into existence.

    The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt, hence
    the saying "dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get
    slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh on the floor to help
    keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they kept adding more thresh
    until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside.

    A piece of wood was placed in the entranceway-hence, a "threshhold."

    They cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the
    fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate
    mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for
    dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start
    over the next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had been there
    for quite a while-hence the rhyme, "peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold,
    peas porridge in the pot nine days old." Sometimes they could obtain pork,
    which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would
    hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man "could
    bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and
    would all sit around and "chew the fat."

    Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with a high acid content
    caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning and
    death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or
    so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

    Most people did not have pewter plates, but had trenchers, a piece of wood
    with the middle scooped out like a bowl. Often trenchers were made from
    stale pays and bread which was so old and hard that they could use them for
    quite some time. Trenchers were never washed and a lot of times worms and
    mold got into the wood and old bread. After eating off wormy moldy
    trenchers, one would get "trench mouth."

    Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the
    loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or "upper crust."

    Lead cups were used to drink ale or whiskey. The combination would
    sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the
    road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.They were laid
    out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather
    around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up hence the
    custom of holding a "wake."

    England is old and small and they started out running out of places to
    bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a
    "bone-house" and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25
    coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized
    they had been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string
    on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the
    ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard
    all night (the "graveyard shift") to listen for the bell; thus, someone
    could be "saved by the bell" or was considered a "dead ringer."

    And that's the truth... (and whoever said that History was boring?!)

  • larc
    larc

    I brought this back up for those who have missed it. I think this would be especially useful for You Know to read. Also, a recent thread, "Convergence of Technology and Society" would be a good one for him to read as well. This input might help expand his mind, which at present in only entertaining one singular point of view.

  • ISP
    ISP

    Excellent stuff, cynicus!......not that dubs would think so!

    ISP

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