Matthew 5:48 (page 3)

LouBelle

I have a greek dictionary and a greek bible, will check it out.

purplesofa

possible-san

I apologize, I did use the information and found it very useful, posted some of what I found, I did bookmark the sites you posted so no need to repost.

again my apologies for being inconsiderate,

purps

quientlyleaving,

will post on your comment when I have more time, babysitting jada right now!!!!!

purps

The New English Bible renders it: u must therefore be all goodness, just as your heavenly father is all good.... Back to the greek word for perfect and whole, both can also mean complete. The greek bible does change the spelling of the 2 perfects in that scripture, one ends in 'lol' the other 'los' don't know if that makes a difference?

LouBelle

The New English Bible renders it: u must therefore be all goodness, just as your heavenly father is all good.... Back to the greek word for perfect and whole, both can also mean complete. The greek bible does change the spelling of the 2 perfects in that scripture, one ends in 'lol' the other 'los' don't know if that makes a difference?

possible-san

Hi, purplesofa.
Thank you for giving a reply, although you are busy.

Possibly I was malicious to you a little.
I must apologize.
I respect the fine work of you and you.

I show some links which I regard as useful here.

King James Bible with Strongs Dictionary
http://www.sacrednamebible.com/kjvstrongs/index.htm

biblos.com Search, Read, Study the Bible in Many Languages

http://biblos.com/

By the two above-mentioned websites, you can investigate the original words of the Scriptures by yourself.
These websites are worth carrying out a bookmark.

Furthermore, if you need to compare and consult some English Versions of the Bible,

Look Higher! - 100 English Bible Versions Online

http://lookhigher.net/

Moreover, if you want to see the various comments of Bible commentaries,

World Wide Study Bible Christian Classics Ethereal Library

http://www.ccel.org/wwsb

When you cannot understand some about the way of investigation of the original words of the Scriptures, please ask me.
In the extent which I can understand, I reply to you always.

possible
http://bb2.atbb.jp/possible/

possible-san

Hi, LouBelle.

The greek bible does change the spelling of the 2 perfects in that scripture, one ends in 'lol' the other 'los' don't know if that makes a difference?

It is only the difference between the "plural form" and a "singular form."
That is, it is because "you" is the plural and the "Father" is a singular.

possible
http://bb2.atbb.jp/possible/

purplesofa

QL,

I found this interesting from the site you posted.

justhuman

Loubelle, at the Original Greek Text it says be perfect(telioi) and telios. Telios is refering to God, and telioi for many. Like we are perfect and I'm perfect. In the pour English language there is only one word - perfect. But in the Greek language when I say I'm perfect, it is prounounced- telios. And when we say we are perfect, we prounounce it - telioi...

I guess this is the advantage for having the Bible written in your language. And specially the Hellenic language that is the most beautiful and wealthy languages in the world, with accurate meanings.

LouBelle

JustHuman - thanks for that explanation - all these lil bits are great to piece together the puzzle.

quietlyleaving

QL,

I found this interesting from the site you posted.

thanku purps - I've been on holiday but was thinking about Tolle and the beneficial effect his writings had on me. One of his truly liberating concepts, that Jamesthomas often wrote about, was that we are all individually complete. This is in the sense that we have all we need and if we still our minds and look inside ourselves in wordless contemplation we begin to realise our completness. This sort of thinking , it seems to me, opposes Peter's view but is a more in harmony with Pauls views. Pauls seems to emphasize a subjective response in achieving a sense of wholeness whereas Peter seems to emphasize traditions and community obligations above individual subjective responses. (my imperfect highly subjective reading of Leo's comment)

Tolle is very much a writer for today. The simplicity of his ideas are a useful antidote to life's stresses and his emphasis on being with nature are marvellously uplifting.

But I think where he falls down is when he paints humanity as being alienated, lost and strife ridden. The thing is if we examine nature closely, nature itself would seem also to be just as "alienated, lost and strife ridden" and when an individual realizes this they can feel even more alienated, lost and strife ridden.

However, I guess, if we see the stillness and peace nature presents is our own representation of it then we can use such powerful, sublime images to generate peace if we need it or generate independence and activity to carve out a place for ourselves to survive, if we need to. We can then reject what does not work for us even if it means we have to tread in a no man's land and be disapproved off.

ql

Matthew 5:48

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