jw's emphasis life not dependant on works, but

by booby 5 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • yknot
    yknot

    Obedience it is all about obedience and zeal to that obedience in the mind of the WTS.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    Obedience first. Our PO would say that. Obedience is the highest quality in Watchtowerland.

    BTS

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    Kinda sounds like the military

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    Is this what the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger is trying to hide? That comes straight from the Bible!--Eph 2:8,9

  • LayingLow
    LayingLow

    There are scriptures that talk about works and others that talk about salvation. Getting the two mixed up can definitely lead to a confusing theology.

    Works: 1 Cor 3:15- 14 If any man’s work shall abide which he built thereon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as through fire.

    Works can be rewarded, but works do not save. Faith saves. Think about the talents and how the "servants" are rewarded. It is definitely based on works. At the same time, notice that they are being called servants. This emphasizes our role as workers rather than sons. We are never told that works "save" us. Becoming sons is through faith, and salvation is an inheritance. But if you have faith for salvation, and a lot of works that are not performed with good motive etc, the day will show them up.

    I think it is important to alway consider the role that the scripture is discussing. As a JW we were prejudiced towards interpreting works scriptures as relating to salvation.

  • independent_tre
    independent_tre

    This sounds like more WT doublespeak to me; it's not the result of the work, but the work itself that results in salvation? NOT.

    One of the greatest things I've learned since fading from the org and studying the bible w/o WT influence is that only faith saves, man cannot 'earn' salvation no matter how many works he has produced.

    This statement was probably included so witneses will continue to put in laborious field service time even though it doesn't seem productive. As if the number of hours put in will gaurantee salvation even if it doesn't produce one bible study.

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