Iran vs. Israel - could it be the beginning of Armageddon?

by tartarus 34 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • tartarus

    I have recently read in the news that an attack on Iran is planned sometime after the Olympics in Beijing. Here's a bit of background to it:

    When Irans fledgling democracy was overthrown with support of CIA the Shah of Iran was giving Israel free oil thru a pipeline that still runs thru Saudi Arabia to a refinery in the Israeli city of Haifa. They have since stopped dealing with Israel denounced the Zionist regime and have funneled money from their huge oil profits to arm Hamas and Hezbollah to attack Israel on it's on soil.

    Isreali army conducted massive military exercises last month in the Mediterranean with Nato member Greece. Russians warn not to attack Iran. They have sold the Iranians their S-300 air defense system. It's hard to imagine that US will make the same mistake as they did in the previous invasion of Irak and withdraw from the region without finishing up all their business there. An attack on Iran looks like a real possbility..

    The China-US relationship is especially interesting. The People's Bank of China is the largest single foreign holder of American currency - close to 2 trillion by the end of this year. Recent of news of a delegation of senior Federal Reserve officials going over to China to talk about it is the indication that US administraion is concerned about it. Dumping dollars unto the open market by the Chinese of their dollar reserves could bring the dollar and the US economic model to its knees. In fact the real reason for the war in Irak and the threat of war with Iran is precisely that the position the greenback holds as the worlds reserve currency. It was threatened by Saddam Hussein when he switched trading Irak's oil from dollars to Euros. Prior to US and Israel's threat to attack Iran (nuclear threat from Iran is just the smoke screen) Iran has done exactly the same - switched from dollar to Euro in it's oil transactions. Here's a UK TV station's doc on this:


    The real reason for all wars has always been money and human greed.

    Disareements in ideology can be overlooked as long as everyone is making money. US criticizies China over human rights while American businesses rush to China to save $$$ on labor. How many plants have been closed in your area in the recent 15-20 years and were moved offshore to China, Vietnam, Malaysia, India, Indonesia or Philippines. Even Mexico has felt this same drain in investment, they can't compete with the Chinese. When was the last time you bought anything labeled "made in USA" (Canada, UK, France, Australia etc.) that didn't have a cheaper Chinese import on the shelf next to it?

    It's unlikely the Russians or the Chinese will come to Iran's defense if it is subjected to the same bombing of it's infrustructure that Serbia was subjected to by the NATO forces in the nineties. They might not have to at all. All they have to do is dump the their dollar reserves on the open market. In fact most American analysts already predicting the collapse of the dollar and the US economy in the near future. The US is the only country in the world that doesn't have a Central Bank with gold reserves. To put it plainly - the dollar is basically worthless peace of paper with ink on it.

    Here's what one analyst says about the future of America and it's currency:

    Iran has a long-term oil supply agreement with China and is a good client for the Russia's military industrial complex. As I see it, the Russia-China military block is the new and last king of the North. Russians would gladly enter NATO if their own arms dealers were not in danger of losing their business to the Americans and the Europeans. Also the expansion of NATO next to it's borders and the planned US anti-missile radar in Poland and the Czech republic prompted the former Russian president Putin say that Russian nuclear-armed missiles will be pointed at Europe again.

    Brrr, is it cold in here, or what?

    Enough to see how the Russia-China tandem vote in the UN's Security Council on key issues as compared to the Anglo-American alliance and it's pretty clear - the Cold war is in full swing, it never stopped. It's a quiet economic war of technical standards,tariff barriers, protectionis measures etc.

    Are you scared shitless yet? :)

    P.S. It's been 33 years since 1975. We all know who lived that long.

  • tartarus

    Some of you might say "Oh, here we go again". LOL, sorry I couldn't help it.:)

    I know it's pointless speculation as no one knows the day or the hour. Stll...the latest happenings in the world are quite interesting.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    I know the DAY and the HOUR!

    Armageddon is imaginary, so the day and the hour are NEVER. NE-VER!

    And since Armageddon is supposed to be a metaphysical event, I doubt that Iran and Israel could precipitate it. Those two contries may blow each other off of the map, but it won't be Armageddon, it will be just another human conflict.

  • free2beme

    Never a shortage in any generation for this sort of thing.

  • justhuman


    By attacking Iran(by the way is one of the most wealthy countries in Oil in the world, they have few thousands of years of history, and they are not Arabs,plus they have latest technological weapons from Russia) it is the start of Armageddon because:

    1.We all know that U.S and Bush will be behind this attack. Since Bush is a phsyco Born Again Crusader, defending democracy and Christianity(Oil) and been the head of the King of South, he will create a Chrstiano-Muslim war, since the rest of the Muslim countries will stand on the side of Iran

    2. As a result of this we proudly present to you: THE KING OF THE NORTH, who are the Muslims and maybe China will join the Muslims, there is a big roumor going on that the Chineese Communist Party with a new law that soon they will vote, will change the faith of the 1.3 billions Chineese to Muslims, so we have the first massive convertion of the biggest country in the world to Islam

    3. After the conflict of King of North and South, U.N will interfear and BANN religion, as WT foretold.

    4. As you guess the only ones who will not bow down to the Beast(U.N) will be JW

    5. A world Persecution against God's servants will be start by U.N

    6. Jehovah gets "ungry" and brings the Great Tribulation upon mankind KILLING 6.2 Billion humans(including babes) in order to save His 6.7 Million Witnesses

  • The Nothing Man
    The Nothing Man

    They have been going on about war with Iran for a long, long time now. Once every while the drum speeds up a bit and a couple of media stories about the 'repressive regime of Iran' will surface, no doubt preparing people to accept another war.

    "And you will hear of wars and reports of wars..."

    I have no doubt that the biggest event that may hit my lifetime is the Jews taking back the temple mount.

  • tartarus

    The latest in Russia is the S-400 which they didn't sell to Iran, but kept for themselves.

  • The Nothing Man
    The Nothing Man

    Probably lead to a series of events which will finally incorporate China

  • tartarus

    Thanks for laying it out justhuman. I think that's the likely scenario, too, duh...:)

    Have you read anything above about the possible dollar devaluation? Some government officials in the States (heard on the news today) have actually started talking about bailing out on their foreign debt obligation. WTF?!!!

    In other words, they're thinking of telling every central bank in the world that bought their worthless paper money to go F*** themselves ! They won't pay back their debt!

    US is the only country in the world whose currency isn't backed by gold reserves. It's backed by a bunch of banks who print it with no restraint. Watch the videos

  • BurnTheShips

    US is the only country in the world whose currency isn't backed by gold reserves. It's backed by a bunch of banks who print it with no restraint.

    Untrue, all the major currencies are fiat currencies, just like the US Dollar.

    Also, it does not matter what currency the oil bourse is denominated it, be it Dollars, Euros or whatever. All currencies are convertible.


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