So what new John?
hope4others
Ok (Truthis) I'm giving you your own debate thread....
by Hope4Others 65 Replies latest members adult
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truthis
Same time zone...
Well its been interesting to say the least...but I still say the guy on the blog is interpreting Rev to his idea of how it fits to world events
not unlike jw's to 1914 and the last days etc etc..... The bible can be pretty much be twisted to how ever you deem it, to fit the scheme of things.
hope4others
11 They have over them a king, the angel of the abyss. In Hebrew his name is A·bad´don, but in Greek he has the name A·pol´lyon.
The angel is a Cherub as in Chernoble which has been abandoned. Hebrew and Greek represent the area where the reactor was located. The Apollo mission was a joint effort between the United States and Soviet Union which shows the two references spoken of in the bible. The king over them was the nation that raised the threat of nuclear war when the United States attacked the area in the Middle East after 9:11
Which nation was this, North Korea perhaps?
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Hope4Others
He could of been Hussien or the president of Iran for all that goes.
President Ahmadinejad is proving too radical even for some Iranian conservatives in TEHRAN, IRAN – Courting confrontation both at home and abroad, Iran's hard-line president is inserting like-minded ideologues into key positions. He's holding strong to Iran's nuclear ambitions. And he's inviting ire in the West with more anti-Israel rhetoric.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is drawing criticism from abroad - and from some conservatives in Iran - for crossing such so-called red lines
h4o
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truthis
He could of been Hussien or the president of Iran for all that goes.
President Ahmadinejad is proving too radical even for some Iranian conservatives in TEHRAN, IRAN – Courting confrontation both at home and abroad, Iran's hard-line president is inserting like-minded ideologues into key positions. He's holding strong to Iran's nuclear ambitions. And he's inviting ire in the West with more anti-Israel rhetoric.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is drawing criticism from abroad - and from some conservatives in Iran - for crossing such so-called red lines
h4o
Who if not the United States caused all of this to occur? When there is a nation waging war without authorization from the United Nations, and without just cause what would you do? All of these countries prepared themselves for battle in case they were invaded. Afterall the United States wanted to create a "New World Order" of Democracy did they not? This is where your thinking ability will come into play "one with a cool avatar"
What gives the nations the right to tell another that they are not able to create nuclear energy? Who made them GOD in which they feel they have rights over all nations around the world? So what would be the solution to the many threats that exist in the world today? How would you approach Iran and convince them that they should abandon their nuclear efforts?
By the way, North Korea actually tested missiles so they were much more of a threat than Iran who has not.
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JK666
truthis is like OBVES without all the numbers.
JK
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truthis
truthis is like OBVES without all the numbers.
JK
Who is OBVES?
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Hope4Others
What gives the nations the right to tell another that they are not able to create nuclear energy? Who made them GOD in which they feel they have rights over all nations around the world?
Not that I agree with all the U.S. decisions, I do say that many countries are quite radical and the World does need to be protected until God does step in.
What would happen if we let all these countries do there own thing, accidents happen, people are abused, butchered and murdered. At least the U.S. trys to step in
when the governments no longer protect its people. I have lived in the Us most of my life, and although I now reside in Canada I do still respect the fact that we all
need to contribute to saving the people and the children so they can live a life normal as possible in this world. Gods been missing a long time now, someone has to take over
till that happens. Let it be a country with freedoms for its people.
h4o
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truthis
Not that I agree with all the U.S. decisions, I do say that many countries are quite radical and the World does need to be protected until God does step in.
What would happen if we let all these countries do there own thing, accidents happen, people are abused, butchered and murdered. At least the U.S. trys to step in
when the governments no longer protect its people. I have lived in the Us most of my life, and although I now reside in Canada I do still respect the fact that we all
need to contribute to saving the people and the children so they can live a life normal as possible in this world. Gods been missing a long time now, someone has to take over
till that happens. Let it be a country with freedoms for its people.
h4o
GOD has allowed His creation to live with free will and this is why we have the many troubles because it has been proven that we cannot rule ourselves. Especially if there are outside forces working against us. Who would ever think that an angel, or one who resides with GOD in Heaven would rebel? To me it is unthinkable.
Freedom of choice is not a government that has been established on a solid foundation. There has to be law and order which is also a protection for the people. I was just speaking with a female from Saudi Arabia who told me that alcohol is not allowed in their country. This would definately solve the many problems we face with alcohol abuse and the many ailments that it causes. Broken families, death from drunk driving etc. etc.
First rule of Law and Order. Remove the rafter from your eye before you ask to remove the straw from your brothers eye. A country that has law and order, and all of their people are taken care of with all the necessities for life will carry alot of weight, if they want to spread their way of thinking to another nation that does not. If you tell a country to stop producing nuclear energy you must first stop producing it yourself. If there is a threat of nuclear war, elliminate all weapons of war.
Is this possible by man? I think you know the answer to this. The nations will beat their swords into plowshares (sp) in The Kingdom.
btw, great response as I agree with your way of thinking, However, who is more of a threat, a nation that wages war or one who does not? How is it Iran is a threat if they have not waged war like the U.S.? The U.S. was not even allowed to drop relief supplies to the people that were suffering in another country because that country did not trust them. Who caused this?
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truthis
truthis,
Here is an example of an OBVES post:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/147726/1.ashx
JK
Thank you, there are too many calculation for me to take the time to read. It is easier if you take the number 666 and add 1260, 1290, and 1335 years to it 666+1260=1926 666+1290=1956 666+1335=2001 At least these years make sense.........the year 607 B.C.E. fits no where and is a big "Mistake" in the w.t.s. wayof thinking