Anyone remember "Jehovahs Christian Witnesses" in Portland OR?

by NikL 11 Replies latest jw friends

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  NikL

  Back in the early 1980s I was visiting my aunt in Gresham Oregon, a suburb of Portland. She was worldly but being a good witness that I was I picked up the yellow pages to find the location of the local Kingdom Hall. Well, I found it but I also found a listing for "Jehovah's Christian witnesses". I thought that kind of interesting.

  Since I didn't have any wheels and I was only 15 at the time I called the kingdom hall and arranged for a brother to give me a ride to the Sunday meeting. On the way to the meeting I asked the brother about the listing in the Yellow Pages. He said, "that's a little organization we have up here". He gave me to understand that this was some sort of apostate group. I've thought about it over the years and wondered what the story was behind this group. Does anybody remember?
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  Low-Key Lysmith

  I live in the area & have never heard of such a thing. Of course, I haven't really looked either.
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  Nathan Natas

  Today, of course, the term is just an alias for the WTB&TS.
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  Quandary

  That "apostate" group was here in Chicago too at the same time, early 80's. I remember one weekday morning answering the telephone at the KH only to hear a recording from this group with an invitation to their meeting. Don't know anything else about them.

  Q
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  83501nwahs

  The same thing happened to me when I was 15 or so in 1985 or so. My brother was just moving to Santa Maria and I was helping him move. On that weekend we thought we'd catch a meeting so I looked in the White Pages and found a listing for Jehovah's Witnesses and Jehovah's Christian Witnesses. I called the latter and a nice lady answered. I asked for the meeting times and places and she said that she was actually another church and that it was against the Watchtower. She was very nice sounding, she had a soft voice. She even said "have a nice meeting." I never heard from the group again.
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  White Dove

  I remember something about them in Portland. All I ever knew was that they were "baaaaad." Does anyone remember a great Vancouver (WA)/Portland (OR) apostacy in the late 80's early 90's? It was a huge scandal.
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  Hortensia

  never heard of it, white dove. Tell us more!
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  rache31

  Heard of "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses" when I was in my late teens. I was visiting West Virginia with a friend. Didn't check them out though. Of course, we would've been forbidden to go anyway...
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  blondie

  Duane Magnani of Witness, Inc. (born-again Christians) used this name to register a whole slew of telephone recorded message ministries years ago. I used to have a message that was registered with the phone company as "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses" because it came up first alphabetically in the phone book, causing Witnesses to think it might be actual active Jdubs. I did it too, and for over 10 years it was in the phone book that way! I got tired of Witnesses calling and asking directions to the Kingdom Hall, plus recorded messages have largely been superceded by the internet, so I closed the phone line down. As a business line it was expensive anyway, and yielded not good results. It WAS very helpful back in 1982 or 1983 when I had a plane fly over Dodger Stadium (this was 2 years after I left Bethel, and had already distributed 10,000 free copies of my tract, "What Happened at the World Headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses in the Spring of 1980" all over the world. That's how my ministry got started.

  Several people called the hotline. The banner on the plane said, "1980 Bethel Shakeup - 310-546-2937" and it had the 1980 message. By the way, the tract is here:

  http://www.freeminds.org/history/whathapp.htm

  This was out a year before Ray Franz did his book, and so it was the first published record of an ex-Bethelite documenting what happened during the Franz incident: http://www.freeminds.org/bethel/incident.htm

  So there's a little history for ya! By the way, several families got out of the Jdubs from that airplane banner. They went to the bathroom and wrote down the number in secrecy. Over the next 1-6 years, some would call me and thank me for helping them get out. It had taken years for some of the seeds to work, or it just took them years to thank me. By the way, the Jdubs were really pissed, and they banned small planes from flying over Dodger Stadium! LOL

  Not bad for a $400 investment.

  I can see it now: Friends, PAY NO ATTENTION to the apostate plane flying overhead!!

  Cracks me up.

  Randy Watters

  http://www.freeminds.org

  http://www.watchtowernews.org

  http://www.randytv.com

  http://www.exjws.net

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/78640/1.ashx
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  RR

  In the Bronx, we had a listing for "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses". In fact the Society used the term in the Watchtowers.

  *** w68 1/1 pp. 14-15 par. 27 How Great a Witness? ***

  The

  WatchTower not only is being distributed but will surely continue to be so, unless the authorities take the matter in hand." Despite these troubles and many more in other countries, Jehovah’s Christian witnesses stuck to their Kingdom preaching activity.

  ***slchap.14p.249par.21WhenMan’sOldOrderMakesWayforGod’sNewOrder*** Jehovah’s Christian witnesses, both the remnant of spiritual Israelites and the "great crowd" of sheeplike companions, are the ones that, since 1919 C.E., have got out of Babylon the Great, in order to prove themselves to be Jehovah’s "people."

  *** yb71 p. 73 Country Reports (Part One) ***Jehovah’s Christian witnesses in the United States have had their best year as to time spent in the field and as to the placement of bound books and magazines.